From: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
To: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>,
marcelo@conectiva.com.br, akpm@osdl.org, andrea@suse.de,
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.22-pre lockups (now decoded oops for pre10)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:43:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030818204338.GE10320@matchmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030811113302.6f30a256.skraw@ithnet.com>
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 11:33:02AM +0200, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:23:20 +1000
> Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday August 10, skraw@ithnet.com wrote:
> > >
> > > From looking at the tests so far I would say the setup is remarkably slower
> > > in terms of writing to ext3 via nfs and sync option set. I think especially
> > > the"sync" is very visible - unlike reiserfs.
> >
> > data=journal
> > makes nfsd go noticable faster over ext3. Having an external journal
> > is even better.
>
> Uh, forgive my ignorance. "journal" means metadata+data journaling. If I have
> large data movement, how can that be even faster? Ok, I see the facts around
> sync'ing the fs. But anyway the data size written should be nearly doubled
> compared to data=ordered. Reiserfs journaling has to be real incredible in
> comparison to ext3(ordered). I have the impression that large files are hit
> most.
You enlarge your journal (larger for more activity).
The idea is that the sync puts all data+meta-data into the journal, and once
that's complete the sync returns.
After the sync returns, the data is written from the journal asyncrounously
in the background while you're not waiting.
If your system is stressed to its limit, this won't work, but in the common
case, it will speed up your nfs server.
Though, after using reiserfs for a while, writeout is smoother. There
aren't the spikes like with ext3 (even in ordered mode), but that could be
due to the 30 second timeout on reiserfs compared to 5 second for ext3
before writes are committed to disk (without memory pressure).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-18 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20030808002918.723abb08.skraw@ithnet.com>
2003-08-08 14:54 ` 2.4.22-pre lockups (now decoded oops for pre10) Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-08 15:05 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-08 15:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-10 21:35 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-10 23:23 ` Neil Brown
2003-08-11 9:33 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-18 20:43 ` Mike Fedyk [this message]
2003-08-13 10:55 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-13 14:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-13 14:59 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-08-13 15:12 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-13 15:30 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-08-13 16:04 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-13 16:34 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-08-13 22:19 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-14 8:45 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-08-14 17:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-14 17:42 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-15 2:08 ` Chris Mason
2003-08-15 9:40 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-15 10:28 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-15 12:55 ` Chris Mason
2003-08-20 14:21 ` 2.4.22-pre lockups (yet another oops for rc2) Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-05 9:24 ` 2.4.22-pre lockups (case closed) Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-05 13:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-15 10:13 ` 2.4.22-pre lockups (now decoded oops for pre10) Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-15 10:31 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-08-18 15:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-18 20:19 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-18 20:58 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-18 22:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-19 1:12 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-19 7:12 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-19 13:10 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-19 14:18 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-19 18:00 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-19 21:58 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-19 13:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-13 15:21 ` Jim Gifford
2003-08-13 17:08 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-10 14:23 ` Keith Owens
2003-08-02 12:27 2.4.22-pre lockups (decoded oops for pre8) Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-05 16:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-06 7:41 ` 2.4.22-pre lockups (now decoded oops for pre10) Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-06 8:58 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-08-06 9:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-06 9:36 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-06 12:45 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-08-18 14:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-06 18:15 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-07 2:14 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-07 5:35 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-08-07 12:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
[not found] ` <3F325198.2010301@namesys.com>
2003-08-07 13:32 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-18 20:29 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-18 20:39 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-08-18 21:09 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-07 15:52 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
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