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From: jlnance@unity.ncsu.edu
To: root@mauve.demon.co.uk
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Lockless file readingu
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:00:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030829100011.GA663@ncsu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200308282344.AAA26603@mauve.demon.co.uk>

On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:44:00AM +0100, root@mauve.demon.co.uk wrote:

> Of course it dowesn't.
> The probability gets rather smaller as numbers go down, and bigger as
> they go up.
> With 2^128 bits, the chance of a a collision between 2^64 randomly chosen 
> pictures is 50%.
> At 2^54 pictures, it's about one in a million, and at 2^34 (enough for
> several pictures of everyone alive) one in a billion billion.
> At more common numbers of pictures (say 2^14) it becomes vanishingly
> unlikely for anyone to have two matching pictures (even with several billion
> archives)

Be careful.  I remember discussing in probability class the liklyhood that
two people in a room with N people have the same birthday.  N does not have
to be anywhere close to 365 for your probability of a collision to be greater
than 50%.  I forget what the exact number is but its less than 30.  The
image problem sounds similar, depending on exactly how you phrase it.

Thanks,

Jim

  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-29 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-27 12:37 Lockless file reading Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 12:42 ` Martin Konold
2003-08-27 12:52   ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 13:40     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-08-27 14:56       ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 23:39         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28  0:52           ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 18:42             ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28  8:40               ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 21:15                 ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28  9:35                   ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 21:52                     ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28 13:26                       ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-28  9:17                 ` David Schwartz
2003-08-28  8:42               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-08-28 20:13                 ` David B. Stevens
2003-08-28  1:50             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28  3:17               ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-28  6:01                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-08-28  6:13                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28  8:57                   ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-28  9:56                     ` David Schwartz
2003-08-28 10:26                       ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-27 22:58                         ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28 12:18                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28  0:39                             ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28 13:00                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28  1:06                                 ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-08-28 21:49                             ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-08-28 12:01                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 13:28                           ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-28 20:24                         ` David Schwartz
2003-08-28 12:44                       ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2003-08-28 13:03                         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 17:26                           ` root
2003-08-28 17:35                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 18:10                               ` root
2003-08-28 21:59                             ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-08-28 23:02                               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 23:44                               ` Lockless file readingu root
2003-08-29 10:00                                 ` jlnance [this message]
2003-08-29 11:55                                   ` David Schwartz
2003-08-29 15:43                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-28 20:37                         ` Lockless file reading David Schwartz
2003-08-28 22:11                           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-08-28 23:00                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-29  0:47                             ` David Schwartz
2003-08-28  9:13                 ` Martin Konold
2003-08-28  9:27                   ` Timo Sirainen
2003-08-28  9:48                     ` Martin Konold
2003-08-28  0:03       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 12:08         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-08-28 12:39           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-28 10:08   ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-28 10:54 ` Robin Rosenberg
2003-08-28 12:42   ` Jamie Lokier

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