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From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bandwidth for bkbits.net (good news)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 08:03:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030830150311.GB23789@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030830012949.GA23789@work.bitmover.com>

On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 06:29:49PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> We've avoiding turning on that feature in the past because we share the
> T1 line that bkbits.net lives on with all the rest of bitmover and we are
> partialy a distributed company.  We do VOIP phones and when you guys clone
> a repo our phones don't work - that makes us look bad during a sales call.

Many people have sent me mail saying that we should be using traffic
shaping to fix this problem.  We are using it and we can't seem to make
it work.  Our theory is that we have a network like

 ----- [ ISP ] ====== internet ======== [ ISP ] ----

wherein "-" means our skinny T1 or DSL and "=" means some fat internet 
connection on the backbone.  

We can shape all we want on our ends but if the internet is blasting us
then our skinny pipe gets full and our shaping doesn't work.  We really
need to have the ISP do the shaping so they can squelch the traffic 
before it gets to our pipe.

If there is someone out there who (a) is running VOIP over the public net
to a pile of different end points (T1 on both ends tends to work, T1 to DSL
or cable modem tends to get harder) and (b) has figured out traffic shaping
that works I'd love to know about it.  

But just saying QoS/wondershaper doesn't help much (though the thought is
appreciated), we've tried that already.

Thanks.
-- 
---
Larry McVoy              lm at bitmover.com          http://www.bitmover.com/lm

  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-30 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-30  1:29 bandwidth for bkbits.net (good news) Larry McVoy
2003-08-30 15:03 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2003-08-30 16:10   ` Jörn Engel
2003-08-31 10:13   ` Toon van der Pas
     [not found] <q2SH.AA.3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <qfwI.15D.27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <qgCn.2y4.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-08-30 22:58     ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-30 23:07       ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31  1:05         ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-31  1:39           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31  2:18             ` Jeff Sipek
2003-08-31  2:42               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31  2:56             ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 13:15               ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 14:45                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 15:31                   ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 15:43                     ` Jörn Engel
2003-08-31 15:50                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 17:06                         ` Florian Weimer
2003-08-31 21:21                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-02  7:06                           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-05  8:10                             ` Florian Weimer
2003-09-05 15:35                               ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-09-05 15:50                                 ` Florian Weimer
2003-09-05 16:10                                 ` P
2003-09-05 16:43                                 ` Ricky Beam
2003-09-07 11:55                                   ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-09-07 18:41                                     ` Ricky Beam
2003-09-02 21:52                           ` Ricky Beam
2003-09-05  8:16                             ` Florian Weimer
2003-08-31 15:44                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 16:22                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 16:33                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 16:48                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 17:06                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 21:18                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 22:49                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 22:52                                   ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 22:58                                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 23:02                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 23:07                                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 23:22                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01  0:12                                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01  0:19                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01  0:33                                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01 11:43                                           ` Alan Cox
2003-09-01 16:13                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 16:24                                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01 16:28                                               ` Alan Cox
2003-09-01 16:38                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 23:39                                     ` Roman Zippel
2003-09-01  0:09                                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01  0:20                                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 22:56                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 23:13                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01  0:18                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01  0:25                                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01  0:28                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01  0:50                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01  1:10                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01  1:33                                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-02  7:11                                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-02  7:01                       ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-08-31 16:23                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 16:36                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 15:38                   ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-02  6:55               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-08-31 13:47             ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-31 14:51               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-02  6:53           ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-08-31  6:30       ` Jörn Engel
     [not found] <qn1b.2Pr.29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <qoTh.5mt.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <rdje.1sH.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-02 17:49     ` Pascal Schmidt

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