From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
Pascal Schmidt <der.eremit@email.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: bandwidth for bkbits.net (good news)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:22:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030831162243.GC18767@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030831154450.GV24409@dualathlon.random>
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 05:44:50PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > It doesn't work when you dont control incoming. As a simple extreme
> > example if I pingflood you from a fast site then no amount of shaping
> > your end of the link will help, it has to be shaped at the ISP end.
>
> sure, that's why I said it won't work with synflood.
Someone syncs w/ bkbits every 19 seconds 24x7. We also run our web server
here. All traffic to from bitmover.com/bitkeeper.com/bkbits.net goes
through that T1 line.
You guys who are saying it can work are thinking (a) one connection of
long duration (think about all the web hits on bkbits.net, those are all
short and new TCP connections) and (b) that a little settling time is OK.
There is a reason that the phone networks don't work like IP networks.
The bandwidth is allocated whether you use it or not and your phone works.
Doing optimistic allocation and then backing off means that the phones
don't work.
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Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2003-08-30 22:58 ` bandwidth for bkbits.net (good news) Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-30 23:07 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 1:05 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-31 1:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 2:18 ` Jeff Sipek
2003-08-31 2:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 2:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 13:15 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 14:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 15:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 15:43 ` Jörn Engel
2003-08-31 15:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 17:06 ` Florian Weimer
2003-08-31 21:21 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-02 7:06 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-05 8:10 ` Florian Weimer
2003-09-05 15:35 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-09-05 15:50 ` Florian Weimer
2003-09-05 16:10 ` P
2003-09-05 16:43 ` Ricky Beam
2003-09-07 11:55 ` Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-09-07 18:41 ` Ricky Beam
2003-09-08 8:57 ` [COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC] " Henning Schmiedehausen
2003-09-02 21:52 ` Ricky Beam
2003-09-05 8:16 ` Florian Weimer
2003-08-31 15:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 16:22 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2003-08-31 16:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 16:48 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 17:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 21:18 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 22:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 22:52 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 22:58 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 23:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 23:07 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 23:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 0:12 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01 0:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 0:33 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01 11:43 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-01 16:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 16:24 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01 16:28 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-01 16:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 23:39 ` Roman Zippel
2003-09-01 0:09 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01 0:20 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 22:56 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 23:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 0:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 0:25 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01 0:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 0:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 1:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 1:33 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-02 7:11 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-02 7:01 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-08-31 16:23 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-31 16:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 15:38 ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-02 6:55 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-08-31 13:47 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-31 14:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-02 6:53 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-08-31 6:30 ` Jörn Engel
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[not found] ` <rdje.1sH.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-02 17:49 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-08-30 1:29 Larry McVoy
2003-08-30 15:03 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-30 16:10 ` Jörn Engel
2003-08-31 10:13 ` Toon van der Pas
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