From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262347AbTHaQYZ (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:24:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262425AbTHaQYZ (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:24:25 -0400 Received: from smtp.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.12]:6857 "EHLO smtp.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262347AbTHaQXr (ORCPT ); Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:23:47 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:23:37 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Alan Cox Cc: Andrea Arcangeli , Larry McVoy , Pascal Schmidt , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: bandwidth for bkbits.net (good news) Message-ID: <20030831162337.GD18767@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Alan Cox , Andrea Arcangeli , Larry McVoy , Pascal Schmidt , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <20030830230701.GA25845@work.bitmover.com> <20030831013928.GN24409@dualathlon.random> <20030831025659.GA18767@work.bitmover.com> <1062335711.31351.44.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030831144505.GS24409@dualathlon.random> <1062343891.10323.12.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1062343891.10323.12.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0.5, required 7, AWL, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 04:31:32PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > what's the difference of rejecting packets in software, or because the > > link can't handle them? Assume the guaranteed bandwidth is much lower > > It doesn't work when you dont control incoming. As a simple extreme > example if I pingflood you from a fast site then no amount of shaping > your end of the link will help, it has to be shaped at the ISP end. HTTP traffic is enough to simulate this, the connections are all small, short lived, and there are a lot of them. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm