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From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Fix up power managment in 2.6
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:26:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030901092646.B15370@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030901081154.GB155@elf.ucw.cz>; from pavel@suse.cz on Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:11:54AM +0200

On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:11:54AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Its the only way to have power managment working by 2.6.1.

Rubbish.  PM is now working here on ARM again - within a week of Pat's
change.

> Lots of
> work went into pm during 2.5 series, and Patrick invalidated all that
> with one, 140KB, untested and broken patch (and he managed to break
> about all rules about patch submission).

I agree that it needed public review _before_ hitting Linus' tree - a
change of that magnitude with only half the subsystems fixed up should
not go directly into Linus' tree without review.

> It is not possible to fix damage he done within week.

It is my understanding that the old PM in 2.5 was not suitable for
the PPC architecture and the new PM model is.  As far as the drivers
are concerned, the interface presented is a definite improvement on
what there was before (there are a few things which I'd like to see
further improvement on, but that's not a subject for discussion in
this thread.)

I don't particularly care about kernel/power/* because its not useful
for me - whereas you obviously do.  Maybe that's where your axe is
grinding.  But whatever, don't throw the baby (driver model changes)
out with the bath water.

And finally, there's longer than a week to fix it. 8)

-- 
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
             http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html


  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-01  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-31 23:28 Fix up power managment in 2.6 Pavel Machek
2003-09-01  6:57 ` Russell King
2003-09-01  8:11   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01  8:26     ` Russell King [this message]
2003-09-01  9:33       ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-01 21:12   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 21:52     ` Russell King
2003-09-01 22:19       ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 22:30         ` Russell King
2003-09-01 22:40           ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 22:48             ` Russell King
2003-09-02 17:17             ` Greg KH
2003-09-03 15:13               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02 10:21           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-09-03 13:02             ` Alan Cox
2003-09-03 13:31               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-09-03 17:08               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 20:42             ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 22:55     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-01 23:38       ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02  0:52         ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-02  9:02           ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02  9:47           ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02 16:11             ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-03 16:21               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-03 23:17                 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-03 17:49               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-03 17:59                 ` bill davidsen
2003-09-03 23:20                 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-05  9:33                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-03 20:03               ` Bill Davidsen
2003-09-03 22:14                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-04  4:06                   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-09-04 14:52                     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-02 10:29       ` Jan Rychter
2003-09-05  5:58       ` Rob Landley
2003-09-05 10:26         ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 10:56           ` Michael Frank
2003-09-05 11:08             ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 11:51               ` Michael Frank
2003-09-05 12:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 17:47         ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-05 18:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-05 18:13             ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-05 21:46               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-05 18:57             ` Rob Landley
2003-09-05 19:06               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 20:09                 ` Keyboard stuff (was Re: Fix up power managment in 2.6) Rob Landley
2003-09-05 20:31                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 20:01             ` Fix up power managment in 2.6 Richard A Nelson
2003-09-05 21:45               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-05 18:49           ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-05 20:13 Nicolas Mailhot

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