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From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Fix up power managment in 2.6
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:30:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030901233023.F22682@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030901221920.GE342@elf.ucw.cz>; from pavel@suse.cz on Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:19:20AM +0200

On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:19:20AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Please don't - that means undoing all the work I've put in to make
> > ARM work again, and I don't have time to play silly games like this.
> 
> Okay, so Patrick broke ARM and you fixed it. But he also broke i386 and
> x86-64; and it is not at all clear that his "newer" version is better
> than the old one. [Really, what's the advantage? AFAICS it is more
> complicated and less flexible, putting "suspend" method to bus as
> oppossed to device].

I don't think PCI device support broke - Pat seems to have fixed up
all that fairly nicely, so the driver model change should be
transparent.

The main advantage from a driver writers point of view is the disposal
of the "level" argument.  (Doesn't really affect x86, PCI drivers never
had visibility of this.)

However, I'll let the PPC people justify the real reason for the driver
model change, since it was /their/ requirement that caused it, and I'm
not going to fight their battles for them.  (although I seem to be doing
exactly that while wasting my time here.)

It's about time that the people in the PPC community, who were the main
guys pushing for the driver model change, spoke up and justified this.

-- 
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
             http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html


  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-01 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-31 23:28 Fix up power managment in 2.6 Pavel Machek
2003-09-01  6:57 ` Russell King
2003-09-01  8:11   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01  8:26     ` Russell King
2003-09-01  9:33       ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-01 21:12   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 21:52     ` Russell King
2003-09-01 22:19       ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 22:30         ` Russell King [this message]
2003-09-01 22:40           ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 22:48             ` Russell King
2003-09-02 17:17             ` Greg KH
2003-09-03 15:13               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02 10:21           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-09-03 13:02             ` Alan Cox
2003-09-03 13:31               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-09-03 17:08               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 20:42             ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 22:55     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-01 23:38       ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02  0:52         ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-02  9:02           ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02  9:47           ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02 16:11             ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-03 16:21               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-03 23:17                 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-03 17:49               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-03 17:59                 ` bill davidsen
2003-09-03 23:20                 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-05  9:33                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-03 20:03               ` Bill Davidsen
2003-09-03 22:14                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-04  4:06                   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-09-04 14:52                     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-02 10:29       ` Jan Rychter
2003-09-05  5:58       ` Rob Landley
2003-09-05 10:26         ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 10:56           ` Michael Frank
2003-09-05 11:08             ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 11:51               ` Michael Frank
2003-09-05 12:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 17:47         ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-05 18:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-05 18:13             ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-05 21:46               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-05 18:57             ` Rob Landley
2003-09-05 19:06               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 20:09                 ` Keyboard stuff (was Re: Fix up power managment in 2.6) Rob Landley
2003-09-05 20:31                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 20:01             ` Fix up power managment in 2.6 Richard A Nelson
2003-09-05 21:45               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-05 18:49           ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-05 20:13 Nicolas Mailhot

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