From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "Paul J.Y. Lahaie" <pjlahaie@steamballoon.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: x86, ARM, PARISC, PPC, MIPS and Sparc folks please run this
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:15:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030902091553.A29984@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030902053415.GA7619@mail.jlokier.co.uk>; from jamie@shareable.org on Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 06:34:15AM +0100
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 06:34:15AM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Russell King wrote:
> > If you take a moment to think about what should be going on -
> >
> > - first write gets translated to physical address, and the address with
> > the data is placed in the write buffer.
> > - second write gets translated to the same physical address, and the
> > address and data is placed into the write buffer such that we store
> > the first write then the second write to the same physical memory.
> > - reading from the first mapping should return the second writes value
> > no matter what.
>
> That is an incomplete explanation, because it should never be possible
> for reads to access data from the write buffer which isn't the most
> recent.
Umm, that's what I said.
> > ARM doesn't do any of those tricks.
>
> Don't some of the ARMs executed two instructions concurrently, like
> the original Pentium?
Nope - they're all single issue CPUs, and, if non-buggy, they guarantee
that stores never bypass loads. (In a later architecture revision, this
is controllable.)
Remember - ARM CPUs aren't a high spec desktop CPU. They're an embedded
CPU where power consumption matters. Superscalar/multiple issue/high
performance isn't viable in such many embedded environments.
--
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk) The developer of ARM Linux
http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-29 5:35 x86, ARM, PARISC, PPC, MIPS and Sparc folks please run this Jamie Lokier
2003-08-29 10:03 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-08-29 10:36 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-01 4:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-29 10:04 ` Sergey S. Kostyliov
2003-08-29 10:15 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-08-29 10:21 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-08-29 10:34 ` CaT
2003-08-29 10:37 ` CaT
2003-08-29 10:49 ` Mikael Pettersson
2003-08-29 11:41 ` Gianni Tedesco
2003-08-29 11:51 ` James Morris
2003-08-29 15:41 ` Larry McVoy
2003-08-29 23:05 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-31 5:10 ` David S. Miller
2003-08-31 22:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 5:31 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-01 6:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 7:06 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-01 8:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 9:02 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-01 10:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 10:02 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-03 17:36 ` bill davidsen
2003-09-04 22:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 5:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 14:43 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-01 16:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 16:58 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-02 20:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-29 15:47 ` Herbert Poetzl
2003-08-30 1:48 ` Stuart Longland
2003-08-29 16:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-09-01 5:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 8:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-09-01 9:09 ` Kars de Jong
2003-09-01 10:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 11:13 ` Roman Zippel
2003-09-02 20:42 ` Kars de Jong
2003-09-02 21:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 7:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-09-03 9:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 9:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-09-03 12:17 ` Roman Zippel
2003-09-03 12:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-09-03 13:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 16:07 ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-09-04 5:03 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-09-03 18:03 ` Nagendra Singh Tomar
2003-09-04 6:38 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-09-04 11:19 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-05 21:24 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-06 23:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07 13:10 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-07 13:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07 13:40 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-07 13:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07 17:56 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-03 12:13 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-09-01 10:35 ` Sam Creasey
2003-09-01 10:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 12:23 ` Sam Creasey
2003-09-03 8:00 ` Kars de Jong
2003-09-03 8:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-09-03 9:24 ` Kars de Jong
2003-08-29 16:31 ` Brian Jackson
2003-08-29 17:39 ` Matt Porter
2003-09-01 6:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 11:17 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-01 17:22 ` Roland Dreier
2003-09-02 2:16 ` Matt Porter
2003-09-02 5:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-29 19:37 ` Thorsten Kranzkowski
2003-08-29 20:03 ` Sean Neakums
2003-08-29 20:14 ` Iulian Musat
2003-08-29 20:26 ` Paul J.Y. Lahaie
2003-09-01 8:15 ` Russell King
2003-09-01 10:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 11:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-09-01 14:17 ` Russell King
2003-09-01 14:51 ` Russell King
2003-09-01 19:09 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2003-09-01 16:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 17:11 ` Russell King
2003-09-02 5:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 8:15 ` Russell King [this message]
2003-09-02 11:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 18:52 ` Russell King
2003-09-02 23:59 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-03 7:31 ` Russell King
2003-09-03 7:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 18:05 ` Russell King
2003-09-04 22:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:37 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-08-29 22:35 ` Kenneth Johansson
2003-08-29 23:47 ` Kurt Wall
2003-09-01 0:24 ` Paul Mundt
2003-09-01 0:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 1:00 ` Paul Mundt
2003-09-01 1:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 1:13 ` dean gaudet
2003-09-01 4:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 10:08 ` Jan Rychter
[not found] <20030829053510.GA12663@mail.jlokier.co.uk.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-08-29 11:08 ` Andi Kleen
2003-08-29 11:17 ` Russell King
2003-09-01 5:03 ` Jamie Lokier
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