From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265152AbTIDRCI (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 13:02:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265223AbTIDRCI (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 13:02:08 -0400 Received: from mail-in-04.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.44]:43997 "EHLO mail-in-04.arcor-online.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265152AbTIDRCG (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Sep 2003 13:02:06 -0400 From: Daniel Phillips To: "Martin J. Bligh" , William Lee Irwin III , Larry McVoy , Alan Cox , "Brown, Len" , Giuliano Pochini , Larry McVoy , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Scaling noise Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:05:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <20030903180547.GD5769@work.bitmover.com> <20030904013253.GB4306@holomorphy.com> <7420000.1062642672@[10.10.2.4]> In-Reply-To: <7420000.1062642672@[10.10.2.4]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309041905.46756.phillips@arcor.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thursday 04 September 2003 04:31, Martin J. Bligh wrote: > I view UP -> SMP -> NUMA -> SSI on NUMA -> SSI on many PCs -> beowulf > cluster as a continuum ... Nicely put. But the last step, ->beowulf, doesn't fit with the others, because all the other steps are successive levels of virtualization that try to preserve the appearance of a single system, whereas Beowulf drops the pretence and lets applications worry about the boundaries, i.e., it lacks essential SSI features. Also, the hardware changes on each of the first four arrows and stays the same on the last one. Regards, Daniel