From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Alternate futex non-page-pinning and COW fix
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 16:45:58 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030907072034.435C62C308@lists.samba.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:54:18 +0100." <20030905205418.GA6019@mail.jlokier.co.uk>
In message <20030905205418.GA6019@mail.jlokier.co.uk> you write:
> Rusty Russell wrote:
> > Now, if mremap doesn't move the memory, futexes aren't broken, even
> > without your patch, right? If it does move, you've got a futex
> > sitting in invalid memory, no surprise if it doesn't work.
>
> If the mremap doesn't move the memory it's fine. No surprise :)
>
> If it's moved, then the program isn't broken - it knows it just did an
> mremap, and it sends the wakeup to the new address.
>
> This makes sense if async futexes are used on an in-memory private
> database. But such programs can just use MAP_ANON|MAP_SHARED if they
> want mremap to work.
wakeup is not a problem: from the kernel's POV, between wakeups the
futex doesn't exist.
The only real case (ignoring the "one thread FUTEX_WAIT while the
other mremaps underneath" which is gonna break anyway), is FUTEX_FD, I
don't see a problem with having to manually move your futex fds in
this case when the memory underneath them has been remapped. In fact,
it'd be surprising if you didn't have to.
> > OTOH, I'm interested in returning EFAULT on waiters when pages are
> > unmapped, because I realized that stale waiters could "match" live
> Ah, you're right. Not fixing that is a serious bug.
> It can happen when an async futex fd is passed to another process.
> ps. There's another bug: shared waiters match inodes, which they don't
> hold a reference to. Inodes can be recycled too. Fix is easy: just
> need to take an inode reference.
Yes. Invalidate is nice because it catches a programmer mistake. But
why not solve the problem by just holding an mm reference, too?
Cheers,
Rusty.
--
Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-07 7:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-26 3:12 [PATCH 2/2] Futex non-page-pinning fix Rusty Russell
2003-08-26 4:06 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 5:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26 5:50 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 5:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26 6:14 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 6:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-08-26 7:02 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 7:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-26 8:08 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2003-08-26 8:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-26 8:25 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 9:02 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2003-08-26 10:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-26 10:44 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 10:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-26 17:29 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-26 19:35 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-27 5:17 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-27 6:20 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-28 0:47 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-28 8:21 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-29 3:46 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-29 4:17 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-30 7:49 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-01 0:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 4:11 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-01 20:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 3:12 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-02 6:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 16:14 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 19:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-02 20:15 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-02 21:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 2:40 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-03 7:36 ` [PATCH] Alternate futex non-page-pinning and COW fix Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 11:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 14:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 17:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 18:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 18:43 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-03 19:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-03 20:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 2:43 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 8:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 12:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 15:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 16:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 18:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 20:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 21:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 22:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-04 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-05 3:55 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-05 17:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 17:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 1:30 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 21:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-05 5:19 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-05 20:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07 6:45 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2003-09-07 13:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 1:49 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-08 9:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 2] Little fixes to previous futex patch Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 16:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 17:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 18:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 20:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 21:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-04 21:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07 7:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-07 12:27 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-07 15:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 1:56 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-07 13:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 3:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-08 9:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 9:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-09-05 4:56 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-03 15:34 ` [PATCH] Alternate futex non-page-pinning and COW fix Andrew Morton
2003-09-03 17:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-04 1:35 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-04 17:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-03 0:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] Futex non-page-pinning fix Rusty Russell
2003-09-03 1:16 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-03 1:54 ` Dave Hansen
2003-09-03 2:54 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-02 3:23 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-09-02 23:58 ` Rusty Russell
2003-08-27 8:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-08-27 8:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-27 10:38 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-27 10:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-08-28 8:03 ` Rusty Russell
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