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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>,
	Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peter_daum@t-online.de
Subject: Re: [2.4 patch] fix CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:24:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030908172416.GA21226@gtf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030908170751.GB27097@mail.jlokier.co.uk>

On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 06:07:51PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > Why requires? On x86, the cpu caches are fully coherent. A too small L1 
> > > cache shift results in false sharing on SMP, but it shouldn't cause the 
> > > described problems.
> > >...
> > 
> > Thanks for the correction, I falsely thought CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT 
> > does something different than it does.
> 
> Were there any changes in the kernel to do with PCI MWI settings?

Yes; I've lost the specific context of the thread, but I have been
working on MWI/cacheline size issues along with IvanK for a while.

It's apparently the responsibility of the OS to fill in correct
PCI_CACHE_LINE_SIZE values, which in the case of generic kernels must be
filled in at runtime (pci_cache_line_size) not at compile-time
(SMP_CACHE_BYTES, etc.)

If you don't call pci_set_mwi() for a PCI device, which triggers the
cacheline size fixups and other checks, then using
Memory-Write-Invalidate (MWI) is definitely wrong.  Or on an older
kernel, without the latest MWI changes, you could wind up programming
cacheline size to a value smaller than your current processor (again,
due to generic kernels).

If a feature/device/whatever can be programmed with cacheline size at
runtime, that will always be the preference.  With a compile-time
constant for cacheline size, you are _guaranteed_ it will be wrong in
some case.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-08 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-07 20:36 [2.4 patch] fix CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT Manfred Spraul
2003-09-08 14:20 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-08 17:07   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-08 17:24     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-09-08 19:45       ` Manfred Spraul
2003-09-09 14:49         ` Peter Daum
     [not found] <20030907195557.GK14436@fs.tum.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-09-07 20:30 ` Andi Kleen
2003-09-07 21:39   ` Dave Jones
2003-09-08  8:15     ` Peter Daum
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.30.0309072228110.9987-100000@swamp.bayern.net.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-09-07 21:57   ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-07 19:55 Adrian Bunk
2003-09-07 20:59 ` Peter Daum

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