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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PM] Passing suspend level down to drivers
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 01:07:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030909230755.GG211@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0309091604070.695-100000@cherise>

Hi!

> > I do think this is a bit complicated. I believe passing level, along
> > with type of the suspend (aka swsusp vs. S4bios) should be enough.
> 
> What about suspend-to-ram, APM, and runtime states?

I'd not worry about runtime states for now. [If user wants to sleep
one device, we probably can allow that, but I do not think it is
reasonable to do much more for 2.6.X]. That leaves us with:

APM suspend-to-ram
APM suspend-to-disk
ACPI standby (S1)
ACPI suspend-to-ram (S3)
ACPI suspend-to-disk (S4bios)
swsusp

Do we want to support ACPI S2? I don't think so. That list is not
*that* bad.

> That actually makes it quite a bit more complicated, globally. By forcing 
> the policy down to the drivers, you force each one to interpret the value 
> themselves and make the decision. By doing it centrally, the only thing 
> the low-level drivers have to worry about is going into the state. 

Yes, but you'll have to have central database saying "nvidia VGA needs
to be in D1 during S3". I don't think that's good idea. Better put it
into the driver... Hopefully not many drivers will need such hacks.
 
								Pavel
-- 
When do you have a heart between your knees?
[Johanka's followup: and *two* hearts?]

  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-09 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-22 21:08 [PM] Patrick: which part of "maintainer" and "peer review" needs explaining to you? Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 21:25 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-08-22 21:53   ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 22:05     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-08-23  1:03       ` Nigel Cunningham
2003-08-23 16:22       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-08-25 19:05         ` [PM] powering down special devices Patrick Mochel
2003-08-25 19:53           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-08-25  9:52       ` [PM] Patrick: which part of "maintainer" and "peer review" needs explaining to you? Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 22:10   ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-22 22:13     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-08-22 22:17       ` Patrick Mochel
2003-08-22 22:36   ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-23 10:47   ` Russell King
2003-08-24 11:54     ` Russell King
2003-08-26 15:39       ` [PM] Config Options Patrick Mochel
2003-08-24 12:08     ` [PM] Patrick: which part of "maintainer" and "peer review" needs explaining to you? Russell King
2003-08-25 15:47     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-08-25 16:27       ` Russell King
2003-08-25 16:57         ` Matt Porter
2003-08-25 17:14           ` Russell King
2003-08-25 17:34             ` Matt Porter
2003-08-28 15:38         ` Platform Devices Patrick Mochel
2003-09-01 12:02         ` [PM] Patrick: which part of "maintainer" and "peer review" needs explaining to you? Pavel Machek
2003-09-02 17:41           ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-09 20:19             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-09-09 20:24               ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-09 21:43               ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-09 22:54                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-09 23:07                   ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-09 23:07                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2003-09-09 23:23                       ` [PM] Passing suspend level down to drivers Patrick Mochel
2003-09-10  0:06                         ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-10  6:12                       ` Stephen Rothwell
2003-09-10 11:48                         ` Alan Cox
2003-09-09 23:15                     ` [PM] Patrick: which part of "maintainer" and "peer review" needs explaining to you? Alan Cox
2003-09-09 22:56               ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-25 17:16       ` Russell King
2003-08-22 22:04 ` Timothy Miller

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