From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: [2.6 patch] better i386 CPU selection
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 18:41:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030913164146.GI27368@fs.tum.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030913161149.GA1750@redhat.com>
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 05:11:49PM +0100, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 02:51:03PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>
> > This patch makes the bzImage for my computer (same .config, same
> > compiler, same compiler options) a good 5 kB smaller.
>
> For the invasiveness of the patch, 5KB really is a questionable gain..
I should have stated that the arch/i386/kernel/cpu{,/mtrr}/Makefile
parts are an example of what is possible with such a CPU selection
schema.
I'll send a splitted patch where this is only an optional enhanchement.
> > In 2.4 selecting e.g. M486 has the semantics to get a kernel that runs
> > on a 486 and above.
> > In 2.6 selecting M486 means that only the 486 is supported.
>
> What are you basing this on ? This seems bogus to me.
> Last I checked, I could for eg, boot a 386 kernel on an Athlon.
It currently works. The question is the exact semantics of X86_GENERIC.
If you read the description of X86_GENERIC it implicitely says a kernel
for a 386 isn't generic.
> > +config CPU_VIAC3_2
> > bool "VIA C3-2 (Nehemiah)"
> > help
> > - Select this for a VIA C3 "Nehemiah". Selecting this enables usage
> > - of SSE and tells gcc to treat the CPU as a 686.
> > - Note, this kernel will not boot on older (pre model 9) C3s.
> > + Select this for a VIA C3 "Nehemiah" (model 9 and above).
>
> You lost an important part of helptext.
With the patch to the Makefile the "enables usage of SSE and tells gcc
to treat the CPU as a 686" is only true if you don't compile support for
older CPUs.
>...
> > +
> > +ifdef CONFIG_CPU_K8
> > + ifdef CONFIG_CPU_PENTIUM4
> > + cpuflags-y := $(call check_gcc,-march=pentium3,-march=i686)
> > + else
> > + cpuflags-y := $(call check_gcc,-march=k8,$(call check_gcc,-march=athlon,-march=i686 $(align)-functions=4))
> > + endif
> > +endif
> > +
>
> These horrible nesting things are also a real PITA, as theres >1 case
> that needs updating when something changes for a particular
> vendor/family. The cflags-$foo stuff in 2.6 was just starting to
> become readable, and you want to undo that?
The idea is to move the question "Which CPU option supports bot an
Athlon and a Pentium 4?" from the user to the kernel. The user no longer
has to take care of this, he simply selects all CPUs he wants to
support.
> > --- linux-2.6.0-test5-cpu/arch/i386/lib/mmx.c.old 2003-09-13 11:14:00.000000000 +0200
> > +++ linux-2.6.0-test5-cpu/arch/i386/lib/mmx.c 2003-09-13 11:17:00.000000000 +0200
> > @@ -121,7 +121,7 @@
> > return p;
> > }
> >
> > -#ifdef CONFIG_MK7
> > +#ifndef CONFIG_CPU_CYRIXIII
> >
> > /*
> > * The K7 has streaming cache bypass load/store. The Cyrix III, K6 and
>
> wtf ?
It's logical considering the dependencies of X86_USE_3DNOW.
But thinking about it a second time, it seems a CONFIG_CPU_ONLY_K7 does
the same and is less error prone.
> > --- linux-2.6.0-test5-cpu/arch/i386/mm/init.c.old 2003-09-13 14:18:04.000000000 +0200
> > +++ linux-2.6.0-test5-cpu/arch/i386/mm/init.c 2003-09-13 14:23:26.000000000 +0200
> > @@ -436,8 +436,12 @@
> > if (!mem_map)
> > BUG();
> > #endif
> > -
> > +
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_CPU_686
> > bad_ppro = ppro_with_ram_bug();
> > +#else
> > + bad_ppro = 0;
> > +#endif
> >
>
> If we boot a 386 kernel on a ppro with that bug, this goes bang.
ppro_with_ram_bug checks for one specific ppro bug.
On a 386 this funtion returns 0.
This is part of the (optional) part of this patch that selects only the
needed parts in arch/i386/kernel/cpu/Makefile. When compiling a kernel
without any support for Intel CPUs I got a linker error. It could be
CONFIG_CPU_INTEL (since that's when arch/i386/kernel/cpu/intel.c gets
compiled) but since this function returns 1 only for some ppro's I've
optimized it to ppro_with_ram_bug.
> > static void __init init_ifs(void)
> > {
> > +
> > +#if defined(CONFIG_CPU_K6)
> > amd_init_mtrr();
> > +#endif
> > +
> > +#if defined(CONFIG_CPU_586)
> > cyrix_init_mtrr();
> > +#endif
> > +
> > +#if defined(CONFIG_CPU_WINCHIP) || defined(CONFIG_CPU_CYRIXIII) || defined(CONFIG_CPU_VIAC3_2)
> > centaur_init_mtrr();
> > +#endif
> > +
>
> For the handful of bytes saved in the mtrr driver, I'm more concerned
> about ifdef noise, and the fact that we don't have a compile once-run
> everywhere MTRR driver anymore unless you pick your options right
You have a "compile once-run everywhere MTRR driver" if you select all
CPUs.
As stated above, this isn't part of the core patch.
> Dave
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Adrian
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-09-13 12:51 RFC: [2.6 patch] better i386 CPU selection Adrian Bunk
2003-09-13 14:20 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-09-13 17:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-13 16:11 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-13 16:41 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2003-09-13 17:21 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-13 18:22 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-13 18:35 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-13 21:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-13 18:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-13 18:37 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-13 18:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-13 20:32 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 22:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-13 22:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-13 18:47 ` Alan Cox
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2003-09-14 0:07 ` Andi Kleen
2003-09-14 0:10 ` David Lang
2003-09-13 11:04 Mikael Pettersson
2003-09-13 11:02 Mikael Pettersson
2003-09-13 11:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-12 21:38 Mikael Pettersson
2003-09-12 23:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-16 12:42 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-09-12 20:09 Mikael Pettersson
2003-09-12 22:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-07 21:47 Mikael Pettersson
2003-09-07 21:46 Mikael Pettersson
2003-09-07 21:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-07 16:47 Mikael Pettersson
2003-09-07 17:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-07 18:09 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-08 8:17 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-09-08 12:36 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-10 14:17 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-11 6:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-11 11:04 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-12 20:41 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-11 12:10 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-09-12 19:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-16 12:34 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-09-11 14:25 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 10:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-07 17:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-07 11:28 Adrian Bunk
2003-09-07 11:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-09-07 13:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-07 13:48 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-09-07 12:42 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-09-07 12:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-07 12:42 ` Robert Schwebel
2003-09-07 13:00 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-07 13:14 ` Robert Schwebel
2003-09-08 15:26 ` Tom Rini
2003-09-07 17:31 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-07 17:48 ` Robert Schwebel
2003-09-07 18:04 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-07 18:26 ` Robert Schwebel
2003-09-07 19:17 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-07 19:17 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-07 17:25 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-11 6:19 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-08 0:46 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-08 14:29 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-09-09 1:11 ` Rusty Russell
2003-09-11 6:22 ` Adrian Bunk
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