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From: Andrew Pimlott <andrew@pimlott.net>
To: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Pascal Schmidt <der.eremit@email.de>,
	Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: People, not GPL  [was: Re: Driver Model]
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 21:16:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030914011614.GA20119@pimlott.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MDEHLPKNGKAHNMBLJOLKMEGJGIAA.davids@webmaster.com>

On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 03:30:35PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote:
> 	If the work would not have been restricted without it and is restricted
> with it and you can't remove it, it's an additional restriction. If not,
> what would an additional restriction be?

You can remove it.  But if you remove for with the obvious purpose
of abetting the distribution of non-GPL derived work, don't be
surprised to get smacked by courts who don't care for your technical
sophistry.

> > Its merely showing the intent of the author.
> 
> 	The intent of the author has no bearing on whether or not a work is
> derived.

I've noticed it's become common to say this, but (NAL) I doubt it's
true.  I would expect a court to respect the author's intent within
some narrow range that would otherwise be ambiguous.  Intent and
community standards play a large role in law.  If enough people wear
a path across private property, it can become an easement.

Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-14  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <uess.1w0.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <ujV3.1uP.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-10 21:52   ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-10 22:26     ` David Schwartz
2003-09-10 22:34       ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-11  1:35         ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 13:30           ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-11 18:39             ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11 18:45               ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-13 17:52                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:54                   ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-13 17:34             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14 10:55               ` Sean Estabrooks
2003-09-11 14:36           ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 17:42             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 20:58           ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:47             ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-12 22:31               ` Alan Cox
2003-09-12 23:26                 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13  0:29                   ` Matt D. Robinson
2003-09-13 17:42                     ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13  5:38                   ` jw schultz
2003-09-13 17:44                   ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 18:19             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 20:01               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 23:17                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  1:57             ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  2:40               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  3:42                 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  3:36                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  4:37                     ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  4:58                       ` freed_symbols [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  5:39                         ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  5:32                           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  6:41                             ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-14  6:50                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  7:10                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  8:08                                 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15  0:17                                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15  5:57                                     ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-15  6:14                                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-10-05  0:52                                       ` Rob Landley
2003-10-05  1:05                                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05  2:34                                           ` viro
2003-10-05  3:45                                             ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 10:24                                               ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 13:56                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 14:14                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 10:23                                           ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 11:32                                             ` David Lang
2003-10-05 13:37                                               ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05  6:40                                         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05  7:39                                           ` viro
2003-10-05 18:27                                           ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 19:21                                             ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:03                                               ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:14                                                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:34                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:43                                                     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-06  1:22                                                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-06  1:37                                                       ` David Lang
2003-10-06  1:51                                                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-05 19:32                                             ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-05 19:47                                               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 20:38                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-05 20:46                                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-05 19:54                                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-09-14  8:45                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-15  0:16                         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-09-15  0:27                           ` Justin Cormack
2003-09-14 21:40                       ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] David Schwartz
2003-09-15  8:06                 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-14  2:51               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-14  3:05               ` GPL == DMCA [Re: People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model]] Andre Hedrick
2003-10-29 22:42             ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] David Schwartz
2003-10-29 23:11               ` David S. Miller
2003-10-30  0:10               ` David Schwartz
2003-09-11  1:39         ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 17:11         ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 21:11           ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-13 21:19             ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 21:12               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-13 22:09               ` Alan Cox
2003-09-13 22:30                 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-14  1:16                   ` Andrew Pimlott [this message]
2003-09-15 15:26                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-09-13 23:00                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-09-12 21:04       ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-12 21:17         ` David Schwartz
2003-09-15 18:24           ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-15 20:17             ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 18:09         ` Andre Hedrick
     [not found] <fa.fq1hscm.1b7ai1k@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.n3hqp6f.1rkg0ob@ifi.uio.no>
2003-09-14  4:39   ` walt
     [not found] <vpYm.1Bn.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <vq84.1P5.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-13 21:43   ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-09-13  9:08 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-09-13  9:49 ` David Schwartz
2003-09-13 14:37   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2003-09-13 17:16 ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-04  3:01 Driver Model David Schwartz
2003-09-10 14:59 ` People, not GPL [was: Re: Driver Model] Timothy Miller
2003-09-10 20:34   ` David Schwartz
2003-09-12 19:55     ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-13 14:18       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-09-13 17:58         ` Alan Cox
2003-09-10 23:35   ` James Clark

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