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From: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: log-buf-len dynamic
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 06:28:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030923042855.GF589@alpha.home.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030922194833.GA2732@velociraptor.random>

Hi,

(it was from me)
 
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 09:48:33PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm rejecting on the log-buf-len feature in 2.4.23pre5, the code in
> mainline is worthless for any distributor, shipping another rpm package
> just for the bufsize would be way overkill.
> 
> Please backout the below (extracted from bkcvs) and apply this one
> instead:
> 
> 	http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/andrea/kernels/v2.4/2.4.22aa1/00_log-buf-len-1

Well, Andrea, I've looked at your patch. I really like the dynamic size
reconfiguration, but:
  - now it becomes mandatory to add a command line option, just for this. It's
    annoying when you want to build install images for many systems. I've
    always considered that command line parameters should be limited to the
    strict minimum to have a system boot reliably (root=, console=, very few
    IDE/SCSI/ACPI tuning when absolutely needed) and that's all.
  - what does the initial __log_buf[] become after log_buf_len_setup() ? can
    these 64 kB be freed or are they definitely lost ?

I think that perhaps we should merge the two things, but reconfigure them
differently :

  - be able to specify de DEFAULT buffer size at compile time.
  - have it reconfigurable at run time with a sysctl (this could be something
    next to 'prink', or even a write to kmsg). This way, if you detect that
    your system is still loosing messages under load, you have a chance to
    catch them all.
  - initialize the buffer with allocated memory from the beginning so that we
    can free it when changing the buffer size. 

I can spend a few hours working with you on this if you're interested. But be
assured that I know enough people who would complain about being forced to
add a new boot option to their lilo.conf.

Cheers,
Willy


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-09-23  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-22 19:48 log-buf-len dynamic Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23  1:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-09-23 21:08   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23  4:28 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2003-09-23 12:49   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 14:06     ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 14:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 15:01         ` Jan Evert van Grootheest
2003-09-23 15:41           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:09             ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 16:26               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:56             ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-09-23 17:40               ` Tom Zanussi
2003-09-23 17:53                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 21:37                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-23 22:22                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  0:15                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-24  0:38                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:06           ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 16:23             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 19:02               ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 22:34                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 23:29                   ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 23:48                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 23:50                       ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 12:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-25 13:40 ` marcelo
2003-09-26 20:26   ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] <20030923142706.54b2428a.davem@redhat.com>
2003-09-23 21:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-23 22:15   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 22:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  0:36       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  1:19         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  2:04           ` andrea
2003-09-24  2:29             ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  2:39               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  3:16                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  3:31                   ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24  3:45                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  3:54                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  4:12                         ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24 21:11                           ` yodaiken
2003-09-24 13:09                       ` Alan Cox
2003-09-24 18:56                         ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-24  3:46                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  4:02                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  4:06                     ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24  2:36             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  2:48               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  3:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  3:28                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  3:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  3:56                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  4:26                         ` viro
2003-09-24  3:42                     ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24  3:11                 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-24 14:43               ` Roman Zippel
2003-09-25  4:08                 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-25  4:20                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-25 17:15               ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 17:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-25 17:57                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-25 18:22                   ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-25 18:33                     ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-09-25 18:36                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 19:02                       ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-25 18:28                   ` Charles Cazabon
2003-09-25 18:29                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 20:15                       ` David Lang
2003-09-25 20:27                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-29  8:56                       ` Rob Landley
2003-09-29 11:24                         ` John Bradford
2003-09-29 12:30                           ` Rob Landley
2003-09-29 15:22                             ` John Bradford
2003-09-29 13:20                           ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-29 13:23                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-29 15:03                             ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-29 18:21                           ` Hua Zhong
2003-09-29 15:07                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 19:23                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 17:31                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-09-25 19:28                   ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-25 17:36                 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-25 18:34                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 18:35                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 18:49                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 20:02                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 23:36                   ` Pau Aliagas
2003-09-26  2:25                 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-26  4:38                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-09-26 17:09                 ` John Goerzen
2003-09-24  7:56       ` Pau Aliagas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-24 17:39 Ken Ryan
2003-09-25 19:43 Mudama, Eric
2003-09-26 13:24 Samium Gromoff
2003-09-26 14:49 ` viro

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