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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Jan Evert van Grootheest <j.grootheest@euronext.nl>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com.br>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: log-buf-len dynamic
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:41:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030923154137.GA1265@velociraptor.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F706046.1000306@euronext.nl>

On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 05:01:26PM +0200, Jan Evert van Grootheest wrote:
> Andrea,
> 
> since you ask...
> I consider myself a not very typical Linux user in that I am a 
> programmer too and I (sometimes) write programs for Linux as well. And 
> yes, I do compile my own kernels.
> 
> I think it is pretty senseless to have a configuation option for the 
> default size of that buffer. Especially if I can, in one of the first rc 
> scripts, do something like 'echo 128 > /proc/sys/kernel/printkbuffer'.

having a sysctl can be an additional option (though it's tricky to
implement due the needed callbacks), but the problem I guess is that
most people needs a larger buf for the boot logs, so having only the
sysctl would be too late...

> The only hard requirement for that default size is that all output up 
> till that rc script fits into a buffer of that size.
> 
> And yes, I do care about that static 64K buffer. I still have an old 
> pentium that only has 16M. Every byte counts!

Note however that on the old 16M pentium it's unlikely that your boot
logs will overflow the current 64k, so for your pentium I doubt there
would be any need to use the feature. At least from my point of view the
feature is meant mainly for the high end, like 16/32-way HT with 64G of
ram etc.. where 64k hardly matters.

> On the other hand there are the really large systems with many CPUs and 
> such. Those might have problems with the small default. But, well, those 
> really could #ifdef a different default based on some configuration 
> options...

note the 64k are only wasted when you use the feature, there's nothing
wasted if you don't use it.

Andrea - If you prefer relying on open source software, check these links:
	    rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.[45]/
	    http://www.cobite.com/cvsps/
	    svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.[46]/trunk

  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-23 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-22 19:48 log-buf-len dynamic Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23  1:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-09-23 21:08   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23  4:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 12:49   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 14:06     ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 14:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 15:01         ` Jan Evert van Grootheest
2003-09-23 15:41           ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-09-23 16:09             ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 16:26               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:56             ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-09-23 17:40               ` Tom Zanussi
2003-09-23 17:53                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 21:37                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-23 22:22                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  0:15                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-24  0:38                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:06           ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 16:23             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 19:02               ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 22:34                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 23:29                   ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 23:48                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 23:50                       ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 12:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-25 13:40 ` marcelo
2003-09-26 20:26   ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] <20030923142706.54b2428a.davem@redhat.com>
2003-09-23 21:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-23 22:15   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 22:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  0:36       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  1:19         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  2:04           ` andrea
2003-09-24  2:29             ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  2:39               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  3:16                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  3:31                   ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24  3:45                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  3:54                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  4:12                         ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24 21:11                           ` yodaiken
2003-09-24 13:09                       ` Alan Cox
2003-09-24 18:56                         ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-24  3:46                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  4:02                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  4:06                     ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24  2:36             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  2:48               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  3:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  3:28                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  3:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  3:56                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  4:26                         ` viro
2003-09-24  3:42                     ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24  3:11                 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-24 14:43               ` Roman Zippel
2003-09-25  4:08                 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-25  4:20                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-25 17:15               ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 17:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-25 17:57                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-25 18:22                   ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-25 18:33                     ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-09-25 18:36                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 19:02                       ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-25 18:28                   ` Charles Cazabon
2003-09-25 18:29                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 20:15                       ` David Lang
2003-09-25 20:27                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-29  8:56                       ` Rob Landley
2003-09-29 11:24                         ` John Bradford
2003-09-29 12:30                           ` Rob Landley
2003-09-29 15:22                             ` John Bradford
2003-09-29 13:20                           ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-29 13:23                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-29 15:03                             ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-29 18:21                           ` Hua Zhong
2003-09-29 15:07                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 19:23                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 17:31                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-09-25 19:28                   ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-25 17:36                 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-25 18:34                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 18:35                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 18:49                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 20:02                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 23:36                   ` Pau Aliagas
2003-09-26  2:25                 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-26  4:38                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-09-26 17:09                 ` John Goerzen
2003-09-24  7:56       ` Pau Aliagas
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-24 17:39 Ken Ryan
2003-09-25 19:43 Mudama, Eric
2003-09-26 13:24 Samium Gromoff
2003-09-26 14:49 ` viro

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