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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@work.bitmover.com>, Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
	andrea@kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com.br>
Subject: Re: log-buf-len dynamic
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 05:46:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030924034612.GQ16314@velociraptor.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030924031602.GA7887@work.bitmover.com>

On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 08:16:02PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> Yeah.  I'm using the Linux VM.  And it _still_ isn't up to what I managed
> to accomplish in SunOS.  Wake up, dude.  You aren't the first one to

if this would be really true, then why do you use linux then? I don't
understand. I've to exclude the reason is that it's free and open.

I heard arguments like yours for years and years from tons of different
people, 7 years ago I heard the very same again and again about linux
at large compared to other operative systems (way before I was using
linux myself).

Personally I don't believe you. I'm not saying the vm is too complex,
but it's heavily dominatd by details, it's simply not possible to
unique describe the vm in terms of algorithms like most parers do, and I
believe what we have in linux (mainline 2.4.23pre5 and 2.6 [modulo
rmap]) is very optimal.

Andrea - If you prefer relying on open source software, check these links:
	    rsync.kernel.org::pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.[45]/
	    http://www.cobite.com/cvsps/
	    svn://svn.kernel.org/linux-2.[46]/trunk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-09-24  3:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20030923142706.54b2428a.davem@redhat.com>
2003-09-23 21:53 ` log-buf-len dynamic Linus Torvalds
2003-09-23 22:15   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 22:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  0:36       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  1:19         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  2:04           ` andrea
2003-09-24  2:29             ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  2:39               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  3:16                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  3:31                   ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24  3:45                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  3:54                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  4:12                         ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24 21:11                           ` yodaiken
2003-09-24 13:09                       ` Alan Cox
2003-09-24 18:56                         ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-24  3:46                   ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-09-24  4:02                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24  4:06                     ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24  2:36             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  2:48               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  3:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  3:28                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  3:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24  3:56                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  4:26                         ` viro
2003-09-24  3:42                     ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24  3:11                 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-24 14:43               ` Roman Zippel
2003-09-25  4:08                 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-25  4:20                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-25 17:15               ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 17:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-25 17:57                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-25 18:22                   ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-25 18:33                     ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-09-25 18:36                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 19:02                       ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-25 19:41                         ` OT go to gnu-arch-users for these matters (Re: log-buf-len dynamic) Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-25 18:28                   ` log-buf-len dynamic Charles Cazabon
2003-09-25 18:29                     ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 20:15                       ` David Lang
2003-09-25 20:27                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-29  8:56                       ` Rob Landley
2003-09-29 11:24                         ` John Bradford
2003-09-29 12:30                           ` Rob Landley
2003-09-29 15:22                             ` John Bradford
2003-09-29 13:20                           ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-29 13:23                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-29 15:03                             ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-29 18:21                           ` Hua Zhong
2003-09-29 15:07                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 19:23                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 17:31                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-09-25 19:28                   ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-25 17:36                 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-25 18:34                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 18:35                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 18:49                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 20:02                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 23:36                   ` Pau Aliagas
2003-09-26  2:25                 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-26  4:38                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-09-26 17:09                 ` John Goerzen
2003-09-24  7:56       ` Pau Aliagas
2003-09-26 13:24 Samium Gromoff
2003-09-26 14:49 ` viro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-25 19:43 Mudama, Eric
2003-09-24 17:39 Ken Ryan
2003-09-22 19:48 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23  1:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-09-23 21:08   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23  4:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 12:49   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 14:06     ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 14:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 15:01         ` Jan Evert van Grootheest
2003-09-23 15:41           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:09             ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 16:26               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:56             ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-09-23 17:40               ` Tom Zanussi
2003-09-23 17:53                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 21:37                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-23 22:22                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24  0:15                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-24  0:38                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:06           ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 16:23             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 19:02               ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 22:34                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 23:29                   ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 23:48                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 23:50                       ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 12:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-25 13:40 ` marcelo
2003-09-26 20:26   ` Andrea Arcangeli

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