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From: Roger Luethi <rl@hellgate.ch>
To: "Ihar 'Philips' Filipau" <filia@softhome.net>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [OT] No Swap. Re: [BUG 2.6.90-test5] kernel shits itself with 48mb ram under moderate load
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:21:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030927202148.GA31080@k3.hellgate.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F75EC3B.4030305@softhome.net>

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:59:55 +0200, Ihar 'Philips' Filipau wrote:
>   Better than with swap. This is production workstation - I cannot test 
> something on it :-(

I don't think there's much risk involved in running 2.[56]. If it doesn't
boot, you can go back to 2.4. If it does boot, it won't eat your data.
YMMV, of course.

>    <rant>'Paging like crazy' became for me a synonym of Linux. It 
> doesn't matter how much memory you have. Less == worse. Developers 

Oh, it does matter. My workstation has 1 GB RAM and 2 GB swap and I hardly
see any problems with paging <g>.

> stopped testing VMM regression on low-memory computers long time ago. 

Many of the best Linux devs these days work for companies and organizations
that are in the business of selling or using big iron. They have people on
staff who test the kernel and whine if it fails to run well with a ton of
memory and a gazillion CPUs (plus people who actually fix it); it's not
their job to care about low end systems. However, you don't have to be a VM
hacker to run a bunch of benchmarks to compare performance and point out
regressions. People tend to listen if you offer some hard numbers instead
of a rant about how nobody cares about the low end.

Roger

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-09-27 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <ArQ0.821.25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <ArQ0.821.21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <ArZC.8f1.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-27 19:59       ` [OT] No Swap. Re: [BUG 2.6.90-test5] kernel shits itself with 48mb ram under moderate load Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-09-27 20:13         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-09-27 20:25           ` Roger Luethi
2003-09-29  5:02             ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-29  5:08               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-09-27 20:21         ` Roger Luethi [this message]
2003-09-28 13:06           ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-09-28 15:52             ` Mikulas Patocka
2003-09-28 17:21               ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-09-28 17:31                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2003-09-28 17:54                   ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-09-28 18:04                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-09-28 17:33                 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2003-09-28 17:57                   ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
     [not found] <Apl1.4ur.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <Ar3B.6UW.21@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-27 18:13   ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-09-27 18:27     ` Roger Luethi

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