From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: log-buf-len dynamic
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 03:56:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200309290356.27600.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030925182921.GA18749@work.bitmover.com>
On Thursday 25 September 2003 13:29, Larry McVoy wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 12:28:38PM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> > Perhaps BitMover could release a client that can't do anything but keep a
> > local (unmodified) tree in sync with a public repository tree, so that
> > the "politically objectionable" (to some) parts of the BK license don't
> > matter.
> >
> > In an idea world, this read-only client could be released in source form,
> > but I'm under no illusions there :).
>
> People ask us for this all the time and it just highlights the point that
> people don't understand how BK works. It isn't client server, it's peer
> to peer, every so-called client has to have all the smarts built in that
> the so-called server has.
>
> There isn't any way to release a stripped down version that makes sense.
> If there was, we would.
I'm under the impression that the real smarts of bitkeeper is keeping a huge
database of independent changes and only making a tree out of them when you
ask to see the thing. I.E. bitkeeper is a huge pile of merge logic that can
take into account not just what the tree looks like now, but everything the
tree has _ever_ looked like.
So a read-only client still needs all this merge logic. Export is the easy
part. VIEW is the hard part. The protocols to marshall the patches from
point A to point B are almost irrelevant, it's sorting and integrating them
into something useful that requires work.
And the reason Andrea hasn't found bitkeeper to be nicer than CVS is he isn't
trying to integrate the work of 300 other developers into his personal tree
simultaneously. BK is really just a merging tool that fixes rejects
automatically, everything else is details...
Am I wrong?
Rob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-29 8:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2003-09-23 21:53 ` log-buf-len dynamic Linus Torvalds
2003-09-23 22:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 22:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24 0:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24 1:19 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24 2:04 ` andrea
2003-09-24 2:29 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24 2:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24 3:16 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24 3:31 ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24 3:45 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24 3:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24 4:12 ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24 21:11 ` yodaiken
2003-09-24 13:09 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-24 18:56 ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-24 3:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24 4:02 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-24 4:06 ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24 2:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24 2:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24 3:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24 3:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24 3:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-24 3:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24 4:26 ` viro
2003-09-24 3:42 ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-24 3:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-24 14:43 ` Roman Zippel
2003-09-25 4:08 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-25 4:20 ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-25 17:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-25 17:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-25 18:22 ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-25 18:33 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-09-25 18:36 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 19:02 ` Jörn Engel
2003-09-25 19:41 ` OT go to gnu-arch-users for these matters (Re: log-buf-len dynamic) Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-25 18:28 ` log-buf-len dynamic Charles Cazabon
2003-09-25 18:29 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 20:15 ` David Lang
2003-09-25 20:27 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-29 8:56 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2003-09-29 11:24 ` John Bradford
2003-09-29 12:30 ` Rob Landley
2003-09-29 15:22 ` John Bradford
2003-09-29 13:20 ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-29 13:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-09-29 15:03 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-29 18:21 ` Hua Zhong
2003-09-29 15:07 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 19:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 17:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-09-25 19:28 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-25 17:36 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-25 18:34 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 18:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 18:49 ` Larry McVoy
2003-09-25 20:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-25 23:36 ` Pau Aliagas
2003-09-26 2:25 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-26 4:38 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-09-26 17:09 ` John Goerzen
2003-09-24 7:56 ` Pau Aliagas
2003-09-26 13:24 Samium Gromoff
2003-09-26 14:49 ` viro
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-25 19:43 Mudama, Eric
2003-09-24 17:39 Ken Ryan
2003-09-22 19:48 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 1:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-09-23 21:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 4:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 12:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 14:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 14:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 15:01 ` Jan Evert van Grootheest
2003-09-23 15:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:09 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 16:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:56 ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2003-09-23 17:40 ` Tom Zanussi
2003-09-23 17:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 21:37 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-23 22:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-24 0:15 ` Andrew Morton
2003-09-24 0:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 16:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 16:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 19:02 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 22:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 23:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 23:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-23 23:50 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-09-23 12:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-25 13:40 ` marcelo
2003-09-26 20:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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