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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	richard.brunner@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Mutilated form of Andi Kleen's AMD prefetch errata patch
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:53:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030930135324.GC5507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030930133936.GA28876@mail.shareable.org>

On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 02:39:36PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
 > Dave Jones wrote:
 > > This looks to be completely gratuitous. Why disable it when we have the
 > > ability to work around it ?
 > 
 > Because some people expressed a wish to have kernels that don't
 > contain the workaround code, be they P4-optimised or 486-optimised
 > kernels.

And those people are wrong. If they want to save bloat, instead of
'fixing' things by removing <1 page of .text, how about working on
some of the real problems like shrinking some of the growth of various
data structures that actually *matter*.

The "I don't want Athlon code in my kernel because I run a P4 and
it makes it slow/bigger" argument is totally bogus. It's akin to
the gentoo-esque "I compiled my distro with -march=p4 and now
my /bin/ls is faster than yours" argument.

 > After all we have kernels that don't contain the F00F
 > workaround too.  I'm not pushing this patch as is, it's for
 > considering the pros and cons.

F00F workaround was enabled on every kernel that is possible
to boot on affected hardware last time I looked.
This is what you seem to be missing, it's not optional.
If its possible to boot that kernel on affected hardware, 
it needs errata workarounds.

 > CONFIG_X86_PREFETCH_WORKAROUND makes more makes more sense with the
 > recently available "split every x86 CPU into individually selectable
 > options" patch, and, on reflection, that's probably where it belongs.

Said patch isn't included in mainline, so this argument is bogus.
Relative merits of that patch were already discussed in another thread.

		Dave

-- 
 Dave Jones     http://www.codemonkey.org.uk

  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-30 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-30  7:38 [PATCH] Mutilated form of Andi Kleen's AMD prefetch errata patch Jamie Lokier
2003-09-30  8:01 ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-30 13:22 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-30 13:39   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-30 13:53     ` Dave Jones [this message]
2003-09-30 14:45       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-30 15:08         ` Dave Jones
2003-09-30 16:54           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-30 17:26             ` Dave Jones
2003-09-30 23:55               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  0:27                 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found] <20030930073814.GA26649@mail.jlokier.co.uk.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20030930132211.GA23333@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <20030930133936.GA28876@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20030930135324.GC5507@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <20030930144526.GC28876@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]         ` <20030930150825.GD5507@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]           ` <20030930165450.GF28876@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]             ` <20030930172618.GE5507@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-09-30 19:08               ` Andi Kleen
2003-09-30 20:08                 ` H. Peter Anvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-01  1:54 Nakajima, Jun
2003-10-01  2:07 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01  2:08 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-10-01  2:23 Nakajima, Jun
2003-10-01  2:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  3:14   ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01  4:30 Nakajima, Jun
2003-10-01  5:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  5:48   ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01  6:13     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  6:32       ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01  6:57         ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found] <7F740D512C7C1046AB53446D3720017304AFCF@scsmsx402.sc.intel.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20031001053833.GB1131@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <20030930224853.15073447.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20031001061348.GE1131@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <20030930233258.37ed9f7f.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-10-01  6:47         ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  7:00           ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01  7:06             ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  7:31               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  7:41                 ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  8:02                 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-10-01  8:49                   ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  9:33                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01 14:51                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01 14:56                       ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01 15:19                         ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01 15:24                           ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01 16:18                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  7:20           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  7:39             ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  8:20               ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]         ` <20031001065705.GI1131@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-10-01  7:15           ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  7:24           ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  7:55             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  8:00               ` Andi Kleen

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