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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	richard.brunner@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Mutilated form of Andi Kleen's AMD prefetch errata patch
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:26:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030930172618.GE5507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030930165450.GF28876@mail.shareable.org>

On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 05:54:50PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:

 > > >    - I don't see anything that prevents a PPro-compiled kernel from booting
 > > >      on a P5MMX with the F00F erratum.
 > > Compiled with -m686 - Uses CMOV, won't boot.
 > Ok, not PPro, but with Processor Family set to K6, CYRIXIII, or any of
 > the 3 WINCHIP choices, it is compiled with -march=i585 and without F00F.

in theory, these should be interchangable. Not tested though.

 > (Fixing that by adding F00F too all those non-Intel processors, just to
 > make sure non-F00F kernels crash with a cmov instruction is too subtle
 > for my taste.)

this case is a little more obscure imo, and not worth the effort.

 > Anyway, it should complain about lack of cmov not crash :)

not easy, given we execute cmov instructions before we even hit
a printk. Such a test & output needs to be done in assembly in early
startup.

 > > 1. The splitting of X86_FEATURE_XMM into X86_FEATURE_XMM_PREFETCH and
 > >    X86_FEATURE_3DNOW_PREFETCH doesn't seem to really buy us anything
 > >    other than complication.
 > I once suggested turning off XMM entirely when prefetch is broken and
 > not fixed, but that resulted in a mild toasting, hence the extra
 > synthetic flag.

Which gets us back to the question of why this is needed at all ?
You said earlier "In case you hadn't fully grokked it, my code doesn't
disable the workaround!"  So why do you need this ?

 > > - If we haven't set CONFIG_X86_PREFETCH_FIXUP (say a P4 kernel), this
 > >   code path isn't taken, and we end up not doing prefetches on P4's too
 > >   as you're not setting X86_FEATURE_XMM_PREFETCH anywhere else, and apply_alternatives
 > >   leaves them as NOPs.
 > > - Newer C3s are 686's with prefetch, this nobbles them too.
 > Read the code again.  It does what you think it doesn't do, so to speak.

Yep, brain fart.

		Dave

-- 
 Dave Jones     http://www.codemonkey.org.uk

  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-30 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-30  7:38 [PATCH] Mutilated form of Andi Kleen's AMD prefetch errata patch Jamie Lokier
2003-09-30  8:01 ` Nick Piggin
2003-09-30 13:22 ` Dave Jones
2003-09-30 13:39   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-30 13:53     ` Dave Jones
2003-09-30 14:45       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-30 15:08         ` Dave Jones
2003-09-30 16:54           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-30 17:26             ` Dave Jones [this message]
2003-09-30 23:55               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  0:27                 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found] <20030930073814.GA26649@mail.jlokier.co.uk.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20030930132211.GA23333@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <20030930133936.GA28876@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20030930135324.GC5507@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <20030930144526.GC28876@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]         ` <20030930150825.GD5507@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]           ` <20030930165450.GF28876@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]             ` <20030930172618.GE5507@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-09-30 19:08               ` Andi Kleen
2003-09-30 20:08                 ` H. Peter Anvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-01  1:54 Nakajima, Jun
2003-10-01  2:07 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01  2:08 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-10-01  2:23 Nakajima, Jun
2003-10-01  2:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  3:14   ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01  4:30 Nakajima, Jun
2003-10-01  5:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  5:48   ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01  6:13     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  6:32       ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01  6:57         ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found] <7F740D512C7C1046AB53446D3720017304AFCF@scsmsx402.sc.intel.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20031001053833.GB1131@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <20030930224853.15073447.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20031001061348.GE1131@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <20030930233258.37ed9f7f.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-10-01  6:47         ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  7:00           ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01  7:06             ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  7:31               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  7:41                 ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  8:02                 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-10-01  8:49                   ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  9:33                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01 14:51                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01 14:56                       ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01 15:19                         ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-01 15:24                           ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01 16:18                       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  7:20           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  7:39             ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  8:20               ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]         ` <20031001065705.GI1131@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-10-01  7:15           ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  7:24           ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-01  7:55             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-01  8:00               ` Andi Kleen

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