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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Radu Filip <socrate@infoiasi.ro>
Cc: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk,
	Makan Pourzandi <Makan.Pourzandi@ericsson.ca>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Axelle Apvrille <Axelle.Apvrille@ericsson.ca>,
	Vincent Roy <vincent.roy@ericsson.ca>,
	David Gordon <davidgordonca@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] DigSig 0.2: kernel module for digital signature verification for binaries
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 00:05:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031001220532.GD5289@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310020043550.16234-100000@shrek.tuiasi.ro>

Hi!

> > <shrug> so in a month rootkits get updated and we are back to square 1,
> > with additional mess from patch...
> 
> Viro, I think you have an attitude problem here. "Don't be ridiculous",
> "Rubbish", "<shrug>" don't sound very constructive or at least
> encouraging.
> 
> Over the years it was proved that Linux kernel can be tailored for a very
> large number of unexpected and very strange needs. IBM put it into
> watches, NASA sent it to space, it is exists in oil wells and so on. I
> think that the possibilities offered by Linux kernel are limited only by
> the knowledge, imagination and will of every of us. Linux itself was once
> a very insignificant and unreliable kernel and many other serious Unix and
> Unix-like alternative were available. Still, it is prevailing today because
> some peoples believed in what they did.
> 
> Especially to your point, should I mention that there are patches that
> avoid buffer-overflows? Or that there are patches for gcc that add bound
> check to arrays in C?

I simply wanted to see valid usage of this. It certainly does not
prevent attacker to get control of your box. Al seems to be right. It
may temporarily redirect script-kiddies, through...

There may be some uses like "prevent tivo users from running their own
software", but I'm not sure I want to encourage some uses. Maybe "its
neccessary to get our phones approved by FCC" would be better.
								Pavel
-- 
When do you have a heart between your knees?
[Johanka's followup: and *two* hearts?]

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-01 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-25 19:19 [ANNOUNCE] DigSig 0.2: kernel module for digital signature verification for binaries Makan Pourzandi
2003-10-01 10:26 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-01 13:33   ` Makan Pourzandi
2003-10-01 14:17     ` viro
2003-10-01 18:14       ` Makan Pourzandi
2003-10-01 18:24         ` viro
2003-10-01 21:51           ` Willy Tarreau
2003-10-01 21:55           ` Radu Filip
2003-10-01 22:05             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2003-10-01 23:36             ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-02  0:53               ` jlnance
2003-10-02  0:17             ` [ANNOUNCE] DigSig 0.2: kernel module for digital signatureverification " Edgar Toernig
2003-10-02  2:04               ` David Gordon
2003-10-02  2:42             ` [ANNOUNCE] DigSig 0.2: kernel module for digital signature verification " Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-02 18:36               ` [ANNOUNCE] DigSig 0.2: kernel module for digital signature ve rification " Makan Pourzandi
2003-10-01 14:05   ` [ANNOUNCE] DigSig 0.2: kernel module for digital signature verification " Valdis.Kletnieks

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