From: Maneesh Soni <maneesh@in.ibm.com>
To: Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Cc: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
Al Viro <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>,
Greg KH <gregkh@us.ibm.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] Backing Store for sysfs
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:01:57 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031007043157.GA9036@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310061321440.985-100000@localhost.localdomain>
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 01:29:20PM -0700, Patrick Mochel wrote:
>
> Uh, that's about the same thing I suggested, though probably not as
> concisely:
>
> "As I said before, I don't know the right solution, but the directions to
> look in are related to attribute groups. Attributes definitely consume the
> most amount of memory (as opposed to the kobject hierachy), so delaying
> their creation would help, hopefully without making the interface too
> awkward.
Ok.. attributes do consume maximum in sysfs. In the system I mentioned
leaf dentries are about 65% of the total.
> You can also use the assumption that an attribute group exists for all the
> kobjects in a kset, and that a kobject knows what kset it belongs to. And
That's not correct... kobject corresponding to /sys/block/hda/queue
doesnot know which kset it belongs to and what are its attributes. Same
for /sys/block/hda/queue/iosched.
> that eventually, all attributes should be added as part of an attribute
> group.."
>
> Attributes are the leaf entries, and they don't need to always exist. But,
> you have easy access to them via the attribute groups of the ksets the
> kobjects belong to.
>
Having backing store just for leaf dentries should be fine. But there is
_no_ easy access for attributes. For this also I see some data change required
as of now. The reasons are
- not all kobjects belong to a kset. For example, /sys/block/hda/queue
- not all ksets have attribute groups
I don't see any generic rule for finding attributes or attribute group
of a kobject. Such random-ness forced me to add new fields to kobject. The
sysfs picture doesnot show the kset-kobject relationship. For example
kobject corresponding /sys/devices/system does not belong to devices_subsystem.
and it is not in the devices_subsys->list. There was no other way except to
build new hierarchy info in the kobject.
What are people's opinion about the way I have linked attributes and
attributes_group to the kobject. I could not link "struct attribute" and
"struct attriubte_group" directly to kobject because these are generally
statically alocated and many kobjects will have the same attribute structure.
and are asigned to multiple kobjects
Thanks
Maneesh
--
Maneesh Soni
Linux Technology Center,
IBM Software Lab, Bangalore, India
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-07 4:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-06 8:59 [RFC 0/6] Backing Store for sysfs Maneesh Soni
2003-10-06 9:00 ` [RFC 1/6] sysfs-kobject.patch Maneesh Soni
2003-10-06 9:00 ` [RFC 2/6] sysfs-mount.patch Maneesh Soni
2003-10-06 9:01 ` [RFC 3/6] sysfs-file.patch Maneesh Soni
2003-10-06 9:01 ` [RFC 4/6] sysfs-symlink.patch Maneesh Soni
2003-10-06 9:02 ` [RFC 5/6] sysfs-attr_group.patch Maneesh Soni
2003-10-06 9:03 ` [RFC 6/6] sysfs-dir.patch Maneesh Soni
2003-10-06 13:43 ` [RFC 2/6] sysfs-mount.patch viro
2003-10-07 7:17 ` Maneesh Soni
2003-10-06 13:41 ` [RFC 1/6] sysfs-kobject.patch viro
2003-10-06 16:16 ` Greg KH
2003-10-06 17:41 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-10-06 17:44 ` Greg KH
2003-10-06 16:08 ` [RFC 0/6] Backing Store for sysfs Greg KH
2003-10-06 17:31 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-10-06 17:38 ` Greg KH
2003-10-06 18:01 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-10-06 18:09 ` Greg KH
2003-10-06 18:31 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-10-06 18:34 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 9:08 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-06 18:44 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-06 19:27 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-10-06 19:30 ` viro
2003-10-06 20:01 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-10-06 20:34 ` viro
2003-10-07 4:47 ` Maneesh Soni
2003-10-06 19:33 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-06 20:26 ` Dipankar Sarma
2003-10-06 20:29 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-07 4:31 ` Maneesh Soni [this message]
2003-10-07 5:25 ` Nick Piggin
2003-10-07 7:17 ` Maneesh Soni
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2003-10-06 12:34 Christian Borntraeger
2003-10-06 17:38 Christian Borntraeger
2003-10-06 17:41 ` Greg KH
2003-10-06 18:00 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-10-06 18:11 ` Greg KH
2003-10-06 18:23 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-10-06 18:30 ` Greg KH
2003-10-06 18:38 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-10-07 8:30 ` Maneesh Soni
2003-10-06 18:19 Christian Borntraeger
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2003-10-06 19:01 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-10-06 19:10 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 0:15 ` Pascal Schmidt
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