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From: tabris <tabris@tabris.net>
To: mru@users.sourceforge.net (Måns Rullgård)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: devfs vs. udev
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:01:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200310071001.56459.tabris@tabris.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yw1xad8dfcjg.fsf@users.sourceforge.net>

On Tuesday 07 October 2003 08:38 am, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> I noticed this in the help text for devfs in 2.6.0-test6:
>
> 	  Note that devfs has been obsoleted by udev,
> 	  <http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/>.
> 	  It has been stripped down to a bare minimum and is only provided for
> 	  legacy installations that use its naming scheme which is
> 	  unfortunately different from the names normal Linux installations
> 	  use.
>
> Now, this puzzles me, for a few of reasons.  Firstly, not long ago,
> devfs was spoken of as the way to go, and all drivers were rewritten
> to support it.  Why this sudden change?  Secondly, that link only
> leads me to a package describing itself as an experimental
> proof-of-concept thing, not to be used for anything serious.  How can
> something that incomplete obsolete a working system like devfs?
> Thirdly, udev appears to respond to hotplug events only.  How is it
> supposed to handle device files not corresponding to any physical
> device?  Finally, I quite liked the idea of a virtual filesystem for
> /dev.  It reduced the clutter quite a bit.  As for the naming scheme,
> it could easily be changed.
My word is hardly authoritative, but istr hearing that the original 
devfs-maintainer has abandoned this code (probably after multiple 
complaints about it being badly implemented, full of bugs, locking 
issues/races, etc).

Not having used it with 2.6 yet, I don't know much about it's status in 
that tree.

So, although devfs may still work, and even be in a better condition than 
udev (at present); no longer maintained (and little intention of 
changing) may be considered equivalent to obsolete.
--
tabris
-
	Max told his friend that he'd just as soon not go hiking in the hills.
Said he, "I'm an anti-climb Max."
	[So is that punchline.]


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-07 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-07 12:38 devfs vs. udev Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 13:41 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-07 14:07   ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 14:23     ` Robert L. Harris
2003-10-07 14:29       ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 16:06       ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-07 16:11         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 16:14         ` Robert L. Harris
2003-10-07 16:54         ` Hugo Mills
2003-10-07 17:19           ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 17:47             ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:49           ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:58             ` Hugo Mills
2003-10-07 18:10               ` Greg KH
2003-10-09 13:43             ` Ian Kent
2003-10-09 20:54               ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:55     ` Greg KH
2003-10-14 13:51     ` Ian Kent
2003-10-17  4:34       ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:54   ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 14:01 ` tabris [this message]
2003-10-07 17:53 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 18:24   ` viro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-23 11:51 DevFS " Bradley W. Allen
2003-12-23 12:06 ` Duncan Sands
2003-12-23 12:12 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-23 12:37   ` Marcelo Bezerra
2003-12-23 13:02     ` Ed Tomlinson
2003-12-25 12:11     ` Kai Henningsen
2003-12-23 14:30 ` Paul Dickson
2003-12-23 23:23   ` Bradley W. Allen
2003-12-23 23:46     ` Brett
2003-12-24  4:01     ` alex.g.goddard.1
2003-12-23 16:19 ` Ian Kent
2003-12-23 17:34   ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-23 22:02     ` Greg KH
2003-12-23 22:13       ` Tomasz Torcz
2003-12-24  0:45       ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-24  1:07         ` Greg KH
2003-12-24  1:28           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-23 21:59 ` Greg KH
2003-12-24  1:52   ` Ian Kent
2003-12-24  2:03     ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:21       ` Ian Kent
2003-12-24  2:22         ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:32           ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-24  2:39             ` Rob Love
2003-12-24  2:38     ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-24  3:41       ` viro
2003-12-24 11:33         ` Witukind
2003-12-24  4:13 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-24  4:38   ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-24 11:15     ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-24 13:44       ` Ian Soboroff
2003-12-24 14:17         ` Xavier Bestel

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