From: "Robert L. Harris" <Robert.L.Harris@rdlg.net>
To: M?ns Rullg?rd <mru@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: devfs vs. udev
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:23:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031007142349.GX1223@rdlg.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yw1xekxpdtuq.fsf@users.sourceforge.net>
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Thus spake M?ns Rullg?rd (mru@users.sourceforge.net):
> Andreas Jellinghaus <aj@dungeon.inka.de> writes:
>
> >> I noticed this in the help text for devfs in 2.6.0-test6:
> >>
> >> Note that devfs has been obsoleted by udev,
> >
> > devfs works fine, lists all devices, and obsoletes makedev.
>
> That's my experience.
Same here but read on.
> > udev needs patching for several issues, current sysfs only exports
> > many but by far not all devices, and because of that makedev
> > is still needed to create an initial /dev.
> >
> > in short: devfs works fine. udev has quite a way to go.
> > so marking devfs obsolete was done too soon by far. but
>
> Exactly my point.
>
> I'd also like an explanation of the rationale behind the switch.
> devfs works and is stable. Why replace it with an incomplete fragile
> userspace solution? I recall reading something about the original
> author not updating devfs recently, but I can't see why that requires
> rewriting it from scratch.
As a pro-devfs person I felt the same and hate to say it but "read the
archives". Someone gave a good writeup on the problems with devfs and
how udev will (eventually) solve them.
I just hope udev can give a look/feel similar to devfs as I have quite a
few machines already in production configured for devfs and really like
the manageablility.
:wq!
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-07 14:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-07 12:38 devfs vs. udev Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 13:41 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-07 14:07 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 14:23 ` Robert L. Harris [this message]
2003-10-07 14:29 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 16:06 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-07 16:11 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 16:14 ` Robert L. Harris
2003-10-07 16:54 ` Hugo Mills
2003-10-07 17:19 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-07 17:47 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:49 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:58 ` Hugo Mills
2003-10-07 18:10 ` Greg KH
2003-10-09 13:43 ` Ian Kent
2003-10-09 20:54 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:55 ` Greg KH
2003-10-14 13:51 ` Ian Kent
2003-10-17 4:34 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 17:54 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 14:01 ` tabris
2003-10-07 17:53 ` Greg KH
2003-10-07 18:24 ` viro
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2003-12-23 11:51 DevFS " Bradley W. Allen
2003-12-23 12:06 ` Duncan Sands
2003-12-23 12:12 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-23 12:37 ` Marcelo Bezerra
2003-12-23 13:02 ` Ed Tomlinson
2003-12-25 12:11 ` Kai Henningsen
2003-12-23 14:30 ` Paul Dickson
2003-12-23 23:23 ` Bradley W. Allen
2003-12-23 23:46 ` Brett
2003-12-24 4:01 ` alex.g.goddard.1
2003-12-23 16:19 ` Ian Kent
2003-12-23 17:34 ` Mark Mielke
2003-12-23 22:02 ` Greg KH
2003-12-23 22:13 ` Tomasz Torcz
2003-12-24 0:45 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-24 1:07 ` Greg KH
2003-12-24 1:28 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-23 21:59 ` Greg KH
2003-12-24 1:52 ` Ian Kent
2003-12-24 2:03 ` Rob Love
2003-12-24 2:21 ` Ian Kent
2003-12-24 2:22 ` Rob Love
2003-12-24 2:32 ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-24 2:39 ` Rob Love
2003-12-24 2:38 ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-24 3:41 ` viro
2003-12-24 11:33 ` Witukind
2003-12-24 4:13 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-24 4:38 ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-24 11:15 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-24 13:44 ` Ian Soboroff
2003-12-24 14:17 ` Xavier Bestel
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