From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: G?bor L?n?rt <lgb@lgb.hu>
Cc: Stuart Longland <stuartl@longlandclan.hopto.org>,
Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
Fabian.Frederick@prov-liege.be, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.7 thoughts
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 07:47:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031010144723.GC727@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031010143529.GT5112@vega.digitel2002.hu>
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 04:35:29PM +0200, G?bor L?n?rt wrote:
> Why? Sure, you should note OS before unplug a CPU ;-) but in this case OS
> should be noticed that it could not use that CPU any more (like scheduler,
> interrupt delivering etc). And then it's not an issue if you unplug THAT
> cpu. Sure, some hw supporting is needed, a "normal" motherboard does not
> like to unplug a CPU when powered of course by hardware issues, but "CPU
> hotplug capable" motherboards can support this. Maybe of course some notice
> mechanism is needed for the motherboard as well not only for the OS, but it
> only mean that notfication before unplugging the CPU should be delivered to
> the OS _and_ to the hardware. Sure, I have no experience at all in this
> area, so this is only a theory (I've never see a hardware support this yet).
You need at least enough warning to get out of critical sections (e.g.
holding a spinlock) and dump registers out to memory. i.e. as long as it
takes to schedule out whatever's currently running on the thing.
... and unless you want to start enforcing realtime bounds, the answer
to "how long do you have to give the kernel to do it?" is "forever".
In practice, it won't take forever, but no finite time is enforcible.
-- wli
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-10 14:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-09 8:08 2.7 thoughts Frederick, Fabian
2003-10-09 8:55 ` John Bradford
2003-10-09 9:45 ` mario noioso
2003-10-09 11:58 ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-09 14:57 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10 6:19 ` Stuart Longland
2003-10-10 6:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 7:30 ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10 7:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 8:47 ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10 9:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:26 ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10 10:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:51 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10 14:07 ` Stuart Longland
2003-10-10 14:27 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10 14:35 ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-10 14:47 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2003-10-10 14:48 ` Mark Mielke
2003-10-10 15:01 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 15:50 ` Mark Mielke
2003-10-10 16:35 ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 16:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-12 20:14 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-10 15:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 15:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 18:03 ` Tim Hockin
2003-10-10 18:29 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 18:56 ` Tim Hockin
2003-10-10 23:40 ` Rusty Russell
2003-10-15 19:15 ` Anton Blanchard
2003-10-10 13:30 ` Kevin Corry
2003-10-10 18:29 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-11 3:49 ` jw schultz
2003-10-11 13:24 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-11 19:50 ` jw schultz
2003-10-10 17:12 ` Matt Simonsen
2003-10-10 20:59 ` Pedro Larroy
2003-10-09 18:17 ` Greg KH
2003-10-09 19:07 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-09 11:56 Svetoslav Slavtchev
2003-10-09 12:44 Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-10-09 13:17 Frederick, Fabian
2003-10-09 13:19 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 13:50 ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-09 13:52 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-10-10 19:01 Zwane Mwaikambo
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