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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: G?bor L?n?rt <lgb@lgb.hu>,
	Stuart Longland <stuartl@longlandclan.hopto.org>,
	Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
	Fabian.Frederick@prov-liege.be, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.7 thoughts
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:21:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031010152120.GE727@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031010151231.GD28795@mail.shareable.org>

William Lee Irwin III wrote:
>> You need at least enough warning to get out of critical sections (e.g.
>> holding a spinlock) and dump registers out to memory. i.e. as long as it
>> takes to schedule out whatever's currently running on the thing.
>> ... and unless you want to start enforcing realtime bounds, the answer
>> to "how long do you have to give the kernel to do it?" is "forever".
>> In practice, it won't take forever, but no finite time is enforcible.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 04:12:31PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> You can create a very peculiar scheduling state to make even
> spinlocked sections multi-task, so the CPU can be released in a finite
> time and quickly - about as quickly as taking an NMI and broadcasting
> the critical IPIs to tell other CPUs to take over.
> The peculiar state is restored to normal as soon as the number
> of concurrent critical sections no longer exceeds the number of real CPUs.

DOH. Okay, that would do it.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-10 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-09  8:08 2.7 thoughts Frederick, Fabian
2003-10-09  8:55 ` John Bradford
2003-10-09  9:45   ` mario noioso
2003-10-09 11:58 ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-09 14:57   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10  6:19     ` Stuart Longland
2003-10-10  6:30       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10  7:30         ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10  7:40           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10  8:47             ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10  9:09               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:26                 ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10 10:50                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:55                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:51       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10 14:07         ` Stuart Longland
2003-10-10 14:27           ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10 14:35           ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-10 14:47             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 14:48               ` Mark Mielke
2003-10-10 15:01                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 15:50                   ` Mark Mielke
2003-10-10 16:35                     ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 16:44                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-12 20:14                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-10 15:12               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 15:21                 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2003-10-10 18:03               ` Tim Hockin
2003-10-10 18:29                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 18:56                   ` Tim Hockin
2003-10-10 23:40                     ` Rusty Russell
2003-10-15 19:15           ` Anton Blanchard
2003-10-10 13:30       ` Kevin Corry
2003-10-10 18:29         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-11  3:49           ` jw schultz
2003-10-11 13:24             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-11 19:50               ` jw schultz
2003-10-10 17:12       ` Matt Simonsen
2003-10-10 20:59   ` Pedro Larroy
2003-10-09 18:17 ` Greg KH
2003-10-09 19:07 ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-09 11:56 Svetoslav Slavtchev
2003-10-09 12:44 Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-10-09 13:17 Frederick, Fabian
2003-10-09 13:19 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 13:50 ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-09 13:52 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-10-10 19:01 Zwane Mwaikambo

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