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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Tim Hockin <thockin@hockin.org>
Cc: wli@holomorphy.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.7 thoughts
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 09:40:07 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031011094007.1cfd6d74.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031010185609.GA4875@hockin.org>

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:56:09 -0700
Tim Hockin <thockin@hockin.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 11:29:09AM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> > I think there is some generalized cpu hotplug stuff that's gone in that
> > direction already, though I don't know any details. The bits about non-
> > cooperative offlining were very interesting to hear, though.
> 
> I spoke with Rusty about it at OLS.  I haven't tracked the hotplug CPU
> projects.  I think that TASK_UNRUNNABLE is the sane way to handle said edge
> case, but at the time Rusty was leaning towards SIGPOWER.

Yeah, if a task has become unrunnable, I do a SIGPOWER (with a new cpu siginfo
field).  If hotplug CPUs had been introduced at the same time as affinity,
this would IMHO have been a valid approach, but may not be so now.

See my kernel.org page, and the sourceforge mailing list for details.

I haven't done anything fancy with cpu offlining, but the most painful bit
is all the callbacks for workqueue threads, migration threads etc.  Once
that's in place, doing the atomic-style switch should be quite possible.
There's a theoretical case where code would do:

	spin_lock
	foo[smp_processor_id()]++;
	...
	foo[smp_processor_id()]--;
	spin_unlock

So you might want to fake up the answer to smp_processor_id() for that
task/interrupt.  Other real per-cpu things might have problems (if you
were halfway through fiddling with the interrupt state on that CPU,
maybe MTRR), but that's what makes it fun.

Cheers,
Rusty.
-- 
   there are those who do and those who hang on and you don't see too
   many doers quoting their contemporaries.  -- Larry McVoy

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-12  2:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-09  8:08 2.7 thoughts Frederick, Fabian
2003-10-09  8:55 ` John Bradford
2003-10-09  9:45   ` mario noioso
2003-10-09 11:58 ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-09 14:57   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10  6:19     ` Stuart Longland
2003-10-10  6:30       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10  7:30         ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10  7:40           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10  8:47             ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10  9:09               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:26                 ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10 10:50                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:55                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:51       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10 14:07         ` Stuart Longland
2003-10-10 14:27           ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10 14:35           ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-10 14:47             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 14:48               ` Mark Mielke
2003-10-10 15:01                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 15:50                   ` Mark Mielke
2003-10-10 16:35                     ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 16:44                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-12 20:14                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-10 15:12               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 15:21                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 18:03               ` Tim Hockin
2003-10-10 18:29                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 18:56                   ` Tim Hockin
2003-10-10 23:40                     ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2003-10-15 19:15           ` Anton Blanchard
2003-10-10 13:30       ` Kevin Corry
2003-10-10 18:29         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-11  3:49           ` jw schultz
2003-10-11 13:24             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-11 19:50               ` jw schultz
2003-10-10 17:12       ` Matt Simonsen
2003-10-10 20:59   ` Pedro Larroy
2003-10-09 18:17 ` Greg KH
2003-10-09 19:07 ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-09 11:56 Svetoslav Slavtchev
2003-10-09 12:44 Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-10-09 13:17 Frederick, Fabian
2003-10-09 13:19 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 13:50 ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-09 13:52 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-10-10 19:01 Zwane Mwaikambo

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