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From: jw schultz <jw@pegasys.ws>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.7 thoughts
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:50:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031011195015.GA8724@pegasys.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031011132422.GI1084@marowsky-bree.de>

On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:24:22PM +0200, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
> On 2003-10-10T20:49:51,
>    jw schultz <jw@pegasys.ws> said:
> 
> > I concur with one caviat.  0+1 has the advantage of
> > extendability that doesn't exist with 1+0.
> 
> Right, this annoying complicated approach you describe can be done much
> easier with 1+0. With [EL]VMS?[12] you can simply create a new raid1 set
> and add it as a physical volume to the volume group and then extend the
> LVs accordingly. (I am unsure whether you can add a new disk to a raid0
> set if you don't want to use a volume manager, but if it's not
> currently, it sounds fairly straightforward to add.)
> 
> Your approach with breaking the mirrors etc includes prolonged periods
> of no redundancy and makes me shiver.

I shivered as i wrote it.  I don't consider the periods of
non-redundancy to be prolonged but they are periods of
highest stress on the drives so they are more likely to fail
(even sans Murphy) while doing that than they would
otherwise.  And if you look back at my closing statement
you'll see that i don't recommend it.  I only site it as a
possibility.

Extendibility is i think the only rationalised excuse for
0+1 when 1+0 is available.  I consider it a rationalisation
because by the time you need to extend an array the value of
same-size disks will be questionable.

> [book flogging]
> I am going to recommend reading
> some linux LVM and RAID howtos ;-)
> 
> So, I think, as far as RAID and Volume Management is concerned, Linux
> does pretty well. There's some advanced and fancy stuff missing (>2
> mirrors, online consistency check, etc), but the basics are pretty well
> done.

Absolutely.

-- 
________________________________________________________________
	J.W. Schultz            Pegasystems Technologies
	email address:		jw@pegasys.ws

		Remember Cernan and Schmitt

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-11 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-09  8:08 2.7 thoughts Frederick, Fabian
2003-10-09  8:55 ` John Bradford
2003-10-09  9:45   ` mario noioso
2003-10-09 11:58 ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-09 14:57   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10  6:19     ` Stuart Longland
2003-10-10  6:30       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10  7:30         ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10  7:40           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10  8:47             ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10  9:09               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:26                 ` YoshiyaETO
2003-10-10 10:50                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:55                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 10:51       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10 14:07         ` Stuart Longland
2003-10-10 14:27           ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-10-10 14:35           ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-10 14:47             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 14:48               ` Mark Mielke
2003-10-10 15:01                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 15:50                   ` Mark Mielke
2003-10-10 16:35                     ` Chris Friesen
2003-10-10 16:44                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-12 20:14                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-10 15:12               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-10-10 15:21                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 18:03               ` Tim Hockin
2003-10-10 18:29                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-10 18:56                   ` Tim Hockin
2003-10-10 23:40                     ` Rusty Russell
2003-10-15 19:15           ` Anton Blanchard
2003-10-10 13:30       ` Kevin Corry
2003-10-10 18:29         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-11  3:49           ` jw schultz
2003-10-11 13:24             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-11 19:50               ` jw schultz [this message]
2003-10-10 17:12       ` Matt Simonsen
2003-10-10 20:59   ` Pedro Larroy
2003-10-09 18:17 ` Greg KH
2003-10-09 19:07 ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-09 11:56 Svetoslav Slavtchev
2003-10-09 12:44 Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-10-09 13:17 Frederick, Fabian
2003-10-09 13:19 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 13:50 ` Gábor Lénárt
2003-10-09 13:52 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2003-10-10 19:01 Zwane Mwaikambo

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