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From: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>
To: Norman Diamond <ndiamond@wta.att.ne.jp>
Cc: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them?
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:49:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031014064925.GA12342@bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33a201c39174$2b936660$5cee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 07:24:00PM +0900, Norman Diamond wrote:
> John Bradford replied to me:
> 
> > > How can I tell Linux to read every sector in the partition?  Oh, I might
> > > know this one,
> > >   dd if=/dev/hda8 of=/dev/null
> > > I want to make sure that the drive is now using a non-defective
> > > replacement sector.
> >
> > A read won't necessarily do that.  You might have to write to a
> > defective sector to force re-allocation.
> 
> I agree, we are not sure if a read will do that.  That is the reason why two
> of my preceding questions were:

I've seen a disk (which now failed and will be replaced 3 hours from now)
remap defective sectors without reporting any errors to the OS. 
The SMART "remapped sector count" just went up, but no errors in the
logs. So apparently, the disk noticed something and remapped teh sector
without anybody noticing. 

>    How can I find out which file contains the bad sector?  I would like to
>    try to recreate the file from a source of good data.

Try: 
	tar cf - / | dd of=/dev/null

(note some people will try to abbreviate that to 
	tar cf /dev/null / 
but that won't work: Tar will recognise that it's writing to /dev/null
and skip reading the files! That's a bug in tar in my book. )

>    How can I tell Linux to mark the sector as bad, knowing the LBA sector
>    number?

man tune2fs .

You have to do the math on the LBA sector numbers (subtract the
partition start, divide by two). 

Also, you can use the "badblocks" program. 

			Roger. 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-14  6:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-13  9:31 Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them? Norman Diamond
     [not found] ` <200310131014.h9DAEwY3000241@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk>
2003-10-13 10:24   ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-13 10:33     ` John Bradford
2003-10-13 11:30       ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-13 11:58         ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-15 10:22           ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-13 12:02         ` John Bradford
2003-10-15 10:23           ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-15 18:56             ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-14  6:54         ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-13 14:24     ` Chuck Campbell
2003-10-13 14:54       ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-10-13 16:29         ` Roger Larsson
2003-10-14  6:49     ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2003-10-14  7:05       ` Wes Janzen
2003-10-14  7:21         ` John Bradford
2003-10-14  7:40           ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  8:11             ` John Bradford
2003-10-14  8:45               ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-14  9:46                 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  9:57                   ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-14 10:10                     ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14 10:31                       ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-14 10:19                 ` John Bradford
     [not found]             ` <200310140800.h9E80BT9000815@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk>
     [not found]               ` <20031014081110.GA14418@bitwizard.nl>
2003-10-14  8:55                 ` Wes Janzen
2003-10-14 10:05                   ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  7:24         ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-14  9:04         ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-15 10:23           ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-15 10:39             ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17  9:40           ` Blockbusting news, this is important (Re: Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them?) Norman Diamond
2003-10-17  9:48             ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17 11:11               ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-17 11:45                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17 11:51                 ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 12:53                 ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 13:03                   ` Russell King
2003-10-17 13:26                     ` John Bradford
2003-10-19  7:50                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-17 13:04                 ` Russell King
2003-10-17 14:09                   ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-17  9:58             ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-17 10:15               ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-17 10:24             ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-17 10:49               ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 11:09                 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-17 11:24                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-17 19:35                   ` John Bradford
2003-10-17 23:28                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-18  7:42                       ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-18  8:30                         ` John Bradford
2003-10-21 20:26                           ` bill davidsen
2003-10-18  8:27                       ` John Bradford
2003-10-18 12:02                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-18 16:26                           ` Nuno Silva
2003-10-18 20:16                             ` Krzysztof Halasa
     [not found]                     ` <m37k33igui.fsf@defiant. <m3u166vjn0.fsf@defiant.pm.waw.pl>
2003-10-21 20:39                       ` bill davidsen
2003-10-17 10:37             ` ATA Defect management John Bradford
2003-10-21 20:44               ` bill davidsen
2003-10-17 12:08             ` Blockbusting news, this is important (Re: Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them?) Justin Cormack
2003-10-21 20:12             ` bill davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-12  8:25 Why are bad disk sectors numbered strangely, and what happens to them? Norman Diamond
2003-10-11  9:00 Norman Diamond
2003-10-11  9:39 ` Andreas Jellinghaus

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