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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] laptop mode
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:52:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031018125252.GQ1128@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2ekxb7isq.fsf@tnuctip.rychter.com>

On Fri, Oct 17 2003, Jan Rychter wrote:
> >>>>> "Jens" == Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de> writes:
>  Jens> On Thu, Oct 09 2003, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>  >> On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>  > Linux Kernel Mailing List wrote:
>  > > ChangeSet 1.1150.1.52, 2003/10/08 10:49:45-03:00, axboe@suse.de
>  > > 	[PATCH] laptop mode
>  > >
>  > > 	Hi Marcelo,
>  > >
>  > > 	Lots of people have been using this patch with great success,
>  > > 	and it's been in the SuSE kernel for some months now too. It is
>  > > 	also in the -benh ppc tree
>  > >
>  > > 	Basically, it introduces a write back mode of dirty and journal
>  > > 	data that is more suitable for laptops. At the block layer end,
>  > > 	it schedules write out of dirty data after the disk has been
>  > > 	idle for 5 seconds.
>  > >
>  > > 	Laptop mode can be switched on and off with
>  > > 	/proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode.  There is also a block_dump sysctl,
>  > > 	which if enabled will dump who dirties and writes out data. This
>  > > 	is very helpful in pinning down who is causing unnecessary
>  > > 	writes to the disk.
>  >
>  > Red Hat just dropped this patch since it was suspected of data
>  > corruption ;-(
>  >>
>  >> Uh, oh... Jens?
> 
>  Jens> See my previous mail. I don't see any problems with it, and I've
>  Jens> certainly not heard of (or experienced myself) problems with the
>  Jens> patch.  I'm waiting for Jeff to expand on his mail, surely he/RH
>  Jens> must know more about this issue.
> 
> FWIW, I've been using laptop-mode for a long time now, with no problems
> whatsoever. It's a great addition and really helps laptop users.

Glad to hear that.

> On a related note, a very desirable feature would be to be able to trace
> which processes do I/O. Unfortunately, Linux distributions aren't very
> well adapted to laptops and many applications are way too
> "trigger-happy" when it comes to hard drive accesses. I guess most
> developers don't use laptops and just assume that they can write or
> read data at will. It is very difficult to trace the culprits when your
> HD light goes on every couple of seconds.

You do know that the laptop-mode patch included a feature to help with
just that very problem, block_dump? If you do

echo "1" > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump

(shut down klogd first), it will tell you which process caused the hd
activity, either directly or by dirtying a page of data.

-- 
Jens Axboe


      reply	other threads:[~2003-10-18 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200310091103.h99B31ug014566@hera.kernel.org>
2003-10-09 14:02 ` [PATCH] laptop mode Jeff Garzik
2003-10-09 14:05   ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 14:17     ` Dave Jones
2003-10-09 14:26       ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-11 11:49         ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-11 13:59           ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-12 22:45             ` Barry K. Nathan
2003-10-14 17:50               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-09 14:09   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-10-09 14:11     ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 14:18       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-09 14:21         ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-09 14:28       ` Dave Jones
2003-10-17 19:42       ` Jan Rychter
2003-10-18 12:52         ` Jens Axboe [this message]

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