From: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>
To: "Mudama, Eric" <eric_mudama@Maxtor.com>
Cc: "'Rogier Wolff '" <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
"''Norman Diamond ' '" <ndiamond@wta.att.ne.jp>,
"''Hans Reiser ' '" <reiser@namesys.com>,
"''Wes Janzen ' '" <superchkn@sbcglobal.net>,
"''John Bradford ' '" <john@grabjohn.com>,
"''linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ' '"
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"''nikita@namesys.com ' '" <nikita@namesys.com>,
"''Pavel Machek ' '" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"''Justin Cormack ' '" <justin@street-vision.com>,
"''Russell King ' '" <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
"''Vitaly Fertman ' '" <vitaly@namesys.com>,
"''Krzysztof Halasa ' '" <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Subject: Re: Blockbusting news, results are in
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:22:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031020062233.GE9280@bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <785F348679A4D5119A0C009027DE33C105CDB303@mcoexc04.mlm.maxtor.com>
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 11:51:05AM -0600, Mudama, Eric wrote:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rogier Wolff
>
> > Know your maxtor drives: Maxtor has been shipping 4-platter,
> > 8 head drives for quite a long time. Only recently am I
> > starting to see the largest maxtor-drive from a family having
> > the space to carry 4 platters, but none of the expected
> > capacity are shipping (*).... Care to explain?
>
> I do know our product line. All of our current 4-platter products are 5400
> RPM, and have been for 4 years. People aren't interested in 5400RPM drives
> anymore, and the design tolerances on a 4-platter 7200RPM drive are tight
> enough that it becomes extremely difficult to manufacture.
OK. Thanks for the explanation. We'd (apparently) buy them, as
evidenced by the disks I found on a random search for maxtor
drives in my company. (about half are maxtor).
The 160G 5400 RPM drives will do 36 Mbyte per second, the 7200 versions
might do 50Mb per second, the difference is unimportant.
> It prevents Dell from saying "this model number comes in 4 sizes, we want
> different part numbers for each capacity too!" so now we only give them the
> capacity.
We're getting annoyed at WD because they are selling WD800 drives
(80G) with 2, 4, 6 and 8 heads(*). So when we order a replacement
WD800 for spare parts for a broken one, we might end up with a
different generation drive which is useless for the "part exchange"
project....
(*) they probably don't sell the full complement... yet.
> If you're looking for the densest drives our factory produces (which have,
> by definition, the best sequential I/O performance), you can buy only the
You're assuming that a head-switch is faster than a track-to-track seek.
Apparently that is no longer true. We've seen drives that "scan" a whole
platter before switching heads. We've seen drives that do this on a
per-region basis.
> model number of a capacity that is at the peak (e.g. a 250GB drive can't be
> made with a 30GB head, while a 200GB can) of a generation.
>
> I think there are other ways to figure out how many heads are physically in
> a drive, but I don't want to spoil it and take all the fun away.
How about: "Opening it up and having a peek?" :-) That certainly
works. But most vendors don't let me do that before I buy. :-)
Roger.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-20 6:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-19 17:51 Blockbusting news, results are in Mudama, Eric
2003-10-20 6:22 ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-21 15:18 Norman Diamond
2003-10-21 19:31 ` Chuck Campbell
2003-10-21 20:05 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-21 20:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-21 20:31 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-21 21:53 ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-10-22 2:32 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-23 17:28 ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-10-20 15:55 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-20 17:32 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-20 14:08 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-20 14:42 ` John Bradford
2003-10-19 17:39 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-19 17:36 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-19 7:37 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-19 8:09 ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-19 8:24 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 11:43 ` Ralf Baechle
2003-10-19 15:55 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-19 8:13 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-19 8:17 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 8:41 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-20 15:56 ` Thayne Harbaugh
2003-10-19 8:21 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-19 8:27 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 9:01 ` Erik Andersen
2003-10-19 14:10 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-19 18:16 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 19:44 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-20 7:21 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 14:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-19 10:47 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-19 2:16 Norman Diamond
2003-10-19 4:15 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-19 5:00 ` Paul
2003-10-19 8:19 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-19 8:08 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 8:35 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-19 20:01 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-19 20:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-20 7:24 ` John Bradford
2003-10-19 22:49 ` jw schultz
2003-10-20 7:22 ` John Bradford
2003-10-20 8:22 ` jw schultz
2003-10-20 7:27 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-20 8:08 ` jw schultz
2003-10-19 19:49 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-20 7:22 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-21 10:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-10-21 8:43 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
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