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From: "Michael Glasgow" <glasgowNOSPAM@beer.net>
To: "Andy Lutomirski" <luto@stanford.edu>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: posix capabilities inheritance
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 20:36:35 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200310230136.h9N1aZfn002145@dark.beer.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa.f9mv0tb.27sf3j@ifi.uio.no>

Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Maybe I misread the spec, but I thought it explicitly stated
> pP' = (fP & X) | (fI & pI)
> (I can't find it right now, though...)

I don't see *any* rules for capabilities evolution explicitly
defined.  There are some limitations and some mandatory characteristics
that any rules of evolution must possess, and these seem to make
sense to me as far as they go.  But there's no explicit "pP' = blah";
perhaps there needs to be.

> I would hope that, on a system that supports file capabilities, a
> file w/o capabilities set and w/o setuid would behave exactly like
> a file with some "default" capabilities.  In my patch, these
> capabilities are (=ei).  In mainline Linux, there is no such
> capability set (witness the logic in cap_binprm_set_security).

I agree for the most part, but why would you choose (=ei) rather
than just (=i)?  Also, what in your opinion should be the meaning
of (fE != 0 && fP=0) versus (fE != 0 && fP = fE)?

> With the (POSIX) rule pE' = pP' & fE, the dumpcap process would
> have been uid=0, euid=500, and all caps effective, which is
> inconsistant with traditional semantics.  Linux currently works
> correctly because fE and fP are dependent on initial uid and euid.

I do not think that rule is specified by the POSIX 1003.1e draft
either, although it is compliant.  Necessary distinction because
I believe we can change the rules in various ways and still be
compliant, if that is important.

Also, it is clear that the inconsistency you point out is due to
your assumption that a file with no capabilities is (=ei) by default.
If it were (=i), then this problem goes away, right?

--
Michael Glasgow < glasgow at beer dot net >

       reply	other threads:[~2003-10-23  1:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.f9mv0tb.27sf3j@ifi.uio.no>
2003-10-23  1:36 ` Michael Glasgow [this message]
2003-10-23  1:57   ` posix capabilities inheritance Andy Lutomirski
     [not found] <fa.f26d55g.1qgijbi@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.hq0dft9.9i0obd@ifi.uio.no>
2003-10-24 21:24   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found] <fa.n4rmmgg.2423pm@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.l1oevhb.1s5k583@ifi.uio.no>
2003-10-24  8:44   ` Andy Lutomirski
2003-10-24 12:41     ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-10-24 16:44       ` Andy Lutomirski
2003-10-24 20:58         ` David Wagner
     [not found] <fa.f4bs2b4.fhub0m@ifi.uio.no>
2003-10-23 22:05 ` Michael Glasgow
2003-10-23 22:59   ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-10-24  1:36   ` Ernie Petrides
2003-10-24  2:19     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2003-10-24  5:10       ` Ernie Petrides
2003-10-25 19:51     ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-23  1:41 Albert Cahalan
     [not found] <fa.f36f4t9.1rg8j3v@ifi.uio.no>
2003-10-22  7:11 ` Michael Glasgow
2003-10-22 19:40   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found] <fa.hehull9.10mmngt@ifi.uio.no>
2003-10-21 18:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-21 11:26 Michael Glasgow
2003-10-23 16:46 ` Theodore Ts'o

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