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From: "J.A. Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>
To: "Joseph D. Wagner" <theman@josephdwagner.info>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: FEATURE REQUEST: Specific Processor Optimizations on x86 Architecture
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:05:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031023230542.GC2084@werewolf.able.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200310221855.15925.theman@josephdwagner.info> (from theman@josephdwagner.info on Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 14:55:15 +0200)

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On 10.22, Joseph D. Wagner wrote:
> Yes, I know you can select Pentium III, Pentium 4, Athlon, etc, under 
> processor type when doing a 'make xconfig', but those selections do not 
> translate into the appropriate -mcpu and -march flags.
> 
> While the kernel on x86 architecture can be optimized in terms of generic 
> processor specifications (i.e. i386, i486, i586, i686), the kernel can't be 
> optimized beyond a i686.
> 
> If you select Pentium III, the -march flag is set to i686.
> If you select Pentium 4, the -march flag is set to i686.
> If you select Athlon 4, the -march flag is set to i686.
> If you select Athlon XP, the -march flag is set to i686.
> 
> It should be that...
> 
> If you select Pentium III, the -march flag is set to pentium3.
> If you select Pentium 4, the -march flag is set to pentium4.
> If you select Athlon 4, the -march flag is set to athlon-4.
> If you select Athlon XP, the -march flag is set to athlon-xp.
> 
> I don't want to have to hand edit the makefiles just to optimize my kernel.  
> I think this change is simple enough to do, and would allow kernel 
> developers the option of processor-specific optimizations in the future.
> 
> TIA.
> 
> Joseph D. Wagner

I have sent the attached patches sometimes to the list/Marcelo, and they
have been rejected to the moment because:
- gcc can spit some new instructions, reorganize code and other things when
  you jump from i686 to pentium3, for example.
- There can be bugs both in gcc and in the kernel that can be triggered by
  >i686 optimizations/code.
- This is not safe for a stable kernel, it was done in 2.5, bugs appeared,
  were corrected, and so on, 'cause this was a development kernel.

BTW, I use this regularly, and have not found any bugs, but I admit it is
unsafe. I also advocate for a pII split (I use a dual PII ;).
There are some other specific code that could be used in the kernel,
for example mb() and so on can be implemented with {m,s,l}fence in p3/p4
processors, instead of the old 'lock; insn' (attached also).

-- 
J.A. Magallon <jamagallon()able!es>     \                 Software is like sex:
werewolf!able!es                         \           It's better when it's free
Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (Cooker) for i586
Linux 2.4.23-pre7-jam2 (gcc 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-2mdk))

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-23 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-22 12:55 FEATURE REQUEST: Specific Processor Optimizations on x86 Architecture Joseph D. Wagner
2003-10-23  0:12 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-22 13:26   ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-10-23  0:37   ` Michael Rozhavsky
2003-10-23  0:15 ` Dave Jones
2003-10-22 13:47   ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-10-23  1:02     ` Rik van Riel
2003-10-23  1:14       ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-10-23  1:18         ` Rik van Riel
2003-10-23  9:26         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-10-23  9:35         ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-23  1:06     ` Tim Hockin
2003-10-22 15:40       ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-10-23 14:57         ` Rik van Riel
2003-10-23  1:23     ` Dave Jones
2003-10-22 15:35       ` Joseph D. Wagner
2003-10-23  2:52         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-23  9:35         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-10-23 13:40         ` Jesse Pollard
2003-10-23 14:57     ` Charles Cazabon
2003-10-23 15:34 ` David Zaffiro
2003-10-23 17:26 ` Rob
2003-10-23 23:05 ` J.A. Magallon [this message]
2003-10-23 23:24   ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]   ` <200310241301.41230.ioe-lkml@rameria.de>
2003-10-27 15:20     ` J.A. Magallon
2003-10-27 20:52       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
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     [not found] ` <JBn4.2xt.19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <JBPW.36x.3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-23  8:32     ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-10-23  8:37     ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
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     [not found]     ` <LhtX.bs.13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-10-27 18:33       ` Andi Kleen
2003-10-27 21:05         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
     [not found] <JB3R.23s.23@gated-at.bofh.it.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <JWKQ.7nS.15@gated-at.bofh.it.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
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     [not found]       ` <m3k76qsf8i.fsf@averell.firstfloor.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.53.0310271603580.21953@montezuma.fsmlabs.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-10-27 21:15           ` Andi Kleen
2003-11-18 14:28             ` Zwane Mwaikambo

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