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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Andreas Jellinghaus <aj@dungeon.inka.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: User-space System Device Enumation (uSDE)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:18:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031029191858.GA4298@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2003.10.29.14.30.29.628488@dungeon.inka.de>

On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 03:30:30PM +0100, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> ---cut---

Sweet shell script, nice job.

> So udev is 99% overhead?

To you, sure, it might be.  Don't use it then, I'm not forcing anyone.

> > 	SDE:	57328 lines
> > 	udev:	 9090 lines
>  shell script:     41 lines

Hm, how about the size of bash?

> > that udev is suffering from "lack of maintainability and bloat" if you
> > really want :)
> 
> bloat. lots of bloat. what is that tdb database for?
> filesystems are persistent. if you want to save space,
> create a tar file :-) 

Sweet, and then run everything on a in-ram compress filesystem just to
save that precious disk space.

> > p.s. yes, I know lines of code is a horrible metric, and doesn't really
> > mean squat.  I just want to point out the huge size difference between
> > the current state of udev and SDE, with pretty much identical
> > functionality from what I can tell.
> 
> I agree. lines of codes is a horrible metric, and comparing a shell
> script that uses many external commands to a c application with
> everything build is makes absolutely no sense. but I wonder why
> the off the shelf machine needs a c applications, if all those
> external commands are installed anyway.

Remember, userspace is just a load test for the kernel, who really needs
applications anyway.

</sarcasm>

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-29 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <3F9D82F0.4000307@mvista.com>
     [not found] ` <20031027210054.GR24286@marowsky-bree.de>
     [not found]   ` <3F9D8AAA.7010308@mvista.com>
2003-10-28 11:00     ` ANNOUNCE: User-space System Device Enumation (uSDE) Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-28 18:12       ` Steven Dake
2003-10-28 22:44         ` Greg KH
2003-10-29 14:30           ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-29 17:20             ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-11-02 17:28               ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-11-03 23:29                 ` Daniel Stekloff
2003-10-29 19:18             ` Greg KH [this message]
2003-10-29 22:12               ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2003-10-29 22:43                 ` Greg KH
2003-10-29  5:12 Guo, Min
2003-10-29 16:10 ` Steven Dake
2003-10-29 19:04 ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-31  0:45 David Dodge
2003-10-31  0:58 ` Greg KH
2003-10-31  2:29   ` Dave Dodge

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