From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262580AbTJ3PT0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:19:26 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262581AbTJ3PT0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:19:26 -0500 Received: from delerium.codemonkey.org.uk ([81.187.208.145]:30089 "EHLO delerium.codemonkey.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262580AbTJ3PTW (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:19:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:18:31 +0000 From: Dave Jones To: Jeff Garzik Cc: Linux Kernel , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz Subject: Re: Post-halloween doc updates. Message-ID: <20031030151831.GA11311@redhat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Jones , Jeff Garzik , Linux Kernel , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz References: <20031030141519.GA10700@redhat.com> <3FA128C4.5040502@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FA128C4.5040502@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 10:05:40AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > (usually notable by a NIC not getting a DHCP lease for eg, despite being > > sent one by the server). Booting with "noapic" "acpi=off" or a > > combination > > of both fixes this for most people. Additional breakage reports should go > > to Jeff Garzik > As this is a symptom of irq routing failure, I dunno if bug reports > should necessarily go to me :) Sorry, you just looked guilty 8-) Removed that last bit. > >Stuff needing forward porting from 2.4. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >- HFSPlus > I think Roman Zippel updated this recently? > >- Direct booting from floppy is no longer supported. > > You should now use a boot loader program instead. > hmmm, what does this mean? it means you now need syslinux. > "make bzdisk" continues to work... it requires syslinux, however, so > that the makefile may install the syslinux bootloader on the floppy. Added a note mentioning that. > >- For Red Hat users, there's another pitfall in "/etc/rc.sysinit". > > .... deletia > Is this all still true? Possibly not, I'll look into this. > > o Most PCMCIA devices have unload races and may oops on eject > > o Modular IDE does not yet work, modular IDE PCI modules sometimes > > oops on loading > > o ide_scsi is completely broken in 2.6 currently. Known problem. > > If you need it either use 2.4 or fix it 8) > also perhaps add a mention of new and spiffy Serial ATA drivers :) See the very last line of of the doc 8-) > >- Jens Axboe added the ability to use DMA for writing CDs on > > ATAPI devices. Writing CDs should be much faster than it > > was in 2.4, and also less prone to buffer underruns and the like. > >- With a recent cdrecord, you also no longer need ide-scsi in order to use > > an IDE CD writer. > Maybe add a pointer in the IDE section, pointing to this section? Since > they both mention ide-scsi... Done. > >devfs. > >~~~~~~ > >- devfs got somewhat stripped down and a lot of duplicate functionality > > got removed. You now need to enable CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y and mount > > the devpts filesystem in the same manner you would if you were not > > using devfs. > Wasn't this mentioned elsewhere in the document? briefly in the 'obsolete' section. the filesystem changes section typically has more info. > >Improved BIOS table support. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >- Linux now supports various new BIOS extensions. > > This is a bit vague. Even I have no idea what this refers to :) Then read on... SBF, EDD & IPMI > I dunno how much there is to add, but I just have a general feeling that > software suspend and ACPI sleep state support has progressed since this > was written. last I tried both were quite dismal, that was a few months back though. > >Compiler issues. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >- The recommended compiler (for x86) is still 2.95.3. > > I'm not sure this is still the case, in practice. Recent times have > seen people breaking 2.95.x, which did not support the C99/C++ style of > mixing variable declarations and code. People would forget this, and we > only find out a few days later that the 2.95.x build was broken. *nod*, more and more distros are now shipping gcc3 as their stock compiler, so it's likely at some point things are going to change. > > 'process xxx using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT' . > > - Bind 9.2.2 checks for #ifdef SO_BSDCOMPAT in correctly, > > so a recompile is all that is needed. > > - bind9-host from debian testing triggers, though the 'host' package > > doesn't. > > - process `snmpd' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT > > - process `snmptrapd' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT > > - ntop uses obsolete (PF_INET,SOCK_PACKET) > > Wasn't there a recent lkml thread relating to this? not that I recall. Thanks for the comments. Dave