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From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Andrew Walrond <andrew@walrond.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel.bkbits.net off the air
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:28:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031113192839.GA13330@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200311131917.11773.andrew@walrond.org>

On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:17:11PM +0000, Andrew Walrond wrote:
> And I still maintain that a stripped out, redistributable, clone/pull only 
> binary tool without the restrictive license would be a real smart business 
> move.

I'm trying to see why.

Our commercial customers don't care about this so there isn't any business
incentive there.

The actual BK users don't care about this, they use BK.

The BK detractors aren't going to touch anything that we produce, they are 
convinced we're out to do them harm somehow.

So who's left?

And a better question is why doesn't some open source person do this?  All 
you need to do is create a network daemon which responds to clone requests
and pull requests.  The clone request sends across a tarball and the client
side untars it.  The pull request sends a changeset key (which was sent in
the last clone/pull) and gets a tarball of new/changed files, the new 
top of trunk changeset key, and a list of renames.  Actually the easier way
is to do it more like diff does, for each file that has been changed, send
across a "delete this file and any directories the deletion leaves empty"
list, and then you unpack the tarball on top of the tree.

This would be easy to build but I don't see it solving anything.  All it
does is act as a replacement for rsync.  It doesn't have revision history,
you can't do diffs, etc.  As soon as this exists, people will ask you
for all the other features.  Which is why I don't want to build it, I
don't want to get sucked into the "please rebuild BK as a GPLed product"
business.

What am I missing?
-- 
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Larry McVoy              lm at bitmover.com          http://www.bitmover.com/lm

  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-13 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.eto0cvm.1v20528@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.onl48uv.1tmeb21@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-11 14:14   ` kernel.bkbits.net off the air walt
2003-11-11 14:38     ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-11 15:05       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-11 19:43       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-11 20:21         ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-11 20:38           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 23:52           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-12  0:19             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 10:10             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 16:27               ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 16:43                 ` Mark Mielke
2003-11-13 17:14                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-13 17:20                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14  3:01                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-13 18:21                   ` Tupshin Harper
2003-11-14  7:14                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-14  9:48                       ` Tupshin Harper
2003-11-14  9:56                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-11-14 21:51                       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-14 22:55                       ` Roman Zippel
2003-11-13 19:17                 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 19:28                   ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2003-11-13 20:57                     ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-13 21:17                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-11-14 14:54                         ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 15:00                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 16:24                         ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-14 16:46                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:34                             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-14 17:43                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 18:17                                 ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-16  5:12                                 ` Sven Dowideit
2003-11-18 15:30                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-18 18:30                                     ` Ben Collins
2003-11-18 18:42                                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-18 22:53                                         ` Sven Dowideit
2003-11-19  0:24                                         ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-19  0:38                                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-11-19 10:26                                             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-19  0:49                                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-19 10:45                                             ` Andrew Walrond
2003-11-18 18:42                                       ` Timothy Miller
2003-11-14 16:35                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 16:48                           ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:03                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 17:04                               ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 17:08                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-14 17:10                                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-16  4:57                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-13 21:54                     ` Eli Carter
2003-11-13 23:32                 ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-14  9:56                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-14 11:38                     ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-15  3:02                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-15  3:22                         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-15  3:41                           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-15  3:49                             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-15  4:04                               ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-15 21:09                         ` Daniel Egger
2003-11-18  9:59                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-18 15:01                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13  0:45           ` Ryan Anderson
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2003-11-18 19:38                 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-11-19 14:49                   ` Larry McVoy
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     [not found] ` <fa.d7qik9h.1q644ip@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-17  0:49   ` walt
2003-11-15  1:06 Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-11-15  1:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-15 10:53   ` Frank Cusack
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-11-13 12:59 Samium Gromoff
2003-11-13 14:44 ` Jan Harkes
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     [not found] ` <fa.dbkbts9.1k7ohhd@ifi.uio.no>
2003-11-11  4:00   ` walt
2003-11-11  7:22     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11  7:37       ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-11  7:47         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 15:04         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-12 21:35           ` Benoit Poulot-Cazajous
2003-11-13 14:53             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 15:23               ` Andreas Schwab
2003-11-13 16:09                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 16:29                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-13 16:39                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-13 22:09                 ` Benoit Poulot-Cazajous
2003-11-11 15:02     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-07  5:10 Larry McVoy
2003-11-07  9:53 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-11-09 15:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-09 15:25   ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-09 15:42     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-09 16:25       ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-10  1:21         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 13:26       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 16:49         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 16:57           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 17:54             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 17:59               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 18:27                 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 18:37                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 18:52                     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 19:08                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 19:23                       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-10 19:31                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-10 19:42                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 23:41                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-11 15:26                             ` Timothy Miller
2003-11-11  3:10                           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11  3:25                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-11  3:48                           ` jw schultz
2003-11-11  4:03                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11  7:34                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-11 15:00                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14  5:13                         ` Andrew Pimlott
2003-11-14 14:01                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14 14:53                             ` Larry McVoy
2003-11-14 15:28                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-11-14 18:20                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10 18:37                   ` David Roundy
2003-11-10 18:46                   ` Andreas Dilger
2003-11-09 19:28     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-10  1:59       ` Matt Mackall
2003-11-10  2:38         ` H. Peter Anvin

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