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From: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Debian Kernels was: 2.6.0test9 Reiserfs boot time "buffer layer error at fs/buffer.c:431"
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:54:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031116235442.5cbcfec0.skraw@ithnet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200311161838.hAGIciLa030513@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:38:44 -0500
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:40:12 +0100, Stephan von Krawczynski said:
> 
> > There is quite a simple difference in -XX kernel and a distro-patch. People
> > have to actively decide to use some patched kernel for whatever their
> > reason may be. A distro on the other hand floods the average user with
> > patched versions _without_ the users' active decision.
> 
> Take it the other direction - people *also* actively choose a distro based
> on some reason (to be honest, a major reason I ended up in RedHat/Fedora
> rather than some other Linux distro or even a *bsd was because at the time
> I needed a *nix with an X server that supported the i810 chipset, they were
> the only ones shipping one pre-built).

Well, this is a good point to explain that some people choose their favourite
distro based on completely other criteria one might expect. I choose mine
because it was a european company and I found it acceptable to make a
"political decision" rather than a pure technical one. In a market that is as
imbalanced as IT towards US companies it sounded like the right thing to do for
me.
Unfortunately US companies have this special capability of reducing your choice
as a customer right down to (almost) zero - which is of course their simple
right in a free market environment.
And this is about the point where the debian project enters my picture ...
 
> On the flip side, I freely admit that the vast majority of things Andrew
> puts in his kernel basically get flooded to me, because installing the
> entire -mm patch is a lot easier than installing half of it....

Which is about my argument placed on a higher level of user experience ;-)

Regards,
Stephan


  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-16 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-28 15:49 2.6.0test9 Reiserfs boot time "buffer layer error at fs/buffer.c:431" lkml-031028
2003-10-28 18:36 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-28 20:27 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-28 22:13 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-28 22:15   ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-29  6:56   ` lkml-031028
2003-10-29 17:44   ` lkml-031028
2003-10-29 20:31     ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-29 21:49       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-10-29 22:19         ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-30  6:22           ` lkml-031028
2003-10-30  6:51           ` lkml-031028
2003-11-02  7:17           ` Herbert Xu
2003-11-02  7:33             ` Andrew Morton
2003-11-02  9:18               ` Oleg Drokin
2003-11-02  9:27               ` Herbert Xu
2003-11-02  9:40                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-11-02  9:54                   ` Herbert Xu
2003-11-02 11:54                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-11-02 21:09                       ` Herbert Xu
2003-11-03 10:20                         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-04  8:10                           ` Hans Reiser
2003-11-04 21:03                             ` Debian Kernels was: " Mike Fedyk
2003-11-04  9:54                               ` Hans Reiser
2003-11-04 23:49                               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-05  0:05                                 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-11-16 13:05                                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-16  3:55                                   ` Hans Reiser
2003-11-16 14:15                                   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-16 17:05                                     ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-16 17:27                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-11-16 17:40                                         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-16 18:38                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-11-16 22:54                                             ` Stephan von Krawczynski [this message]
2003-11-16 17:30                                       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-11-02 11:50                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-11-02 20:33                   ` Herbert Xu

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