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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Krzysztof Benedyczak <golbi@mat.uni.torun.pl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] POSIX message queues - syscalls & SIGEV_THREAD
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:47:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031118124754.GA23333@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0311181254490.27011@Juliusz>

Krzysztof Benedyczak wrote:
> I'm afraid not ;-). In our case there can happen two situations after
> setting notification: 1) (normal) notification event that have to be
> serviced 2) cancellation of notification - when thread which some time ago
> set notification resigns from it. In general it is only important that we
> need a possibility to "signal" userspace with 2 different values.

You can just store the different values in userspace before signalling
the futex wakeup, can't you?

> >     5. If any are different, close() the fds and return "did not sleep".
> ------>hole
> >     6. Call poll() on the list of fds to wait until one becomes ready.
> >     7. close() the fds and return "woken".
> 
> If I understand you in the right way - yes it is important. The very
> simple situation - we have two futexes. One wakeup on first
> futex happen between 5. and 6. On the futex number 2 never. Or after an
> hour.

You are setting the first futex's word in userspace prior to the first
futex wakeup, right?  Either 5 will detect that and return
immediately, or it will reach 6 and the poll() returns immediately.
No hole there.

( The async token passing flaw is that the _waker_ loses track of how
many succesful wakeups it has sent; this is used by some
implementations of fair semaphores, among other things.  That might be
relevant to POSIX message queues but I do not see that it's relevant
to the two futex problem you described. )

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-18 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-16 14:57 [PATCH] POSIX message queues - syscalls & SIGEV_THREAD Krzysztof Benedyczak
2003-11-16 15:35 ` Manfred Spraul
2003-11-17 13:57   ` Krzysztof Benedyczak
2003-11-17  6:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-11-17 14:58   ` Krzysztof Benedyczak
2003-11-17 15:33     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-11-17 19:18       ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-11-17 21:13         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-11-18 12:20       ` Krzysztof Benedyczak
2003-11-18 12:47         ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2003-11-21 11:40           ` Krzysztof Benedyczak
2003-11-17 19:07     ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-11-17 21:14       ` Jamie Lokier
2003-11-17 21:30         ` Randy.Dunlap

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