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From: Jan De Luyck <lkml@kcore.org>
To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Jean Tourrilhes <jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com>,
	"Mudama, Eric" <eric_mudama@maxtor.com>
Cc: Linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Announce: ndiswrapper
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:58:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311210858.29082.lkml@kcore.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031121000031.GA17869@bougret.hpl.hp.com>

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On Friday 21 November 2003 01:00, Jean Tourrilhes wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 04:53:12PM -0700, Mudama, Eric wrote:
> > I think the point being made is "Why spend an extra $150 on a PCMCIA wifi
> > card when there's an integrated wifi device already in the laptop that
> > ndiswrapper will allow to sortof work?"
> >
> > The person who bought this laptop and wants to run linux on it might not
> > have the extra money handy to use buying additional hardware.
> >
> > Not my point of view, but definitely "a" point of view.
> >
> > --eric
>
> 	My point is : why buy this laptop if it's not 100%
> supported ? They are plenty of other laptops...
> 	I can guarantee you that I'm more picky and more cheap than
> anyone when choosing laptops, and I always get something 100%
> supported.

I, too, am the owner of a 'centrino' laptop, which comes with the intel Pro/
wireless 2100 card. At the time I bought it, Intel said that they would be 
providing linux support for centrino, and since they made good on their 
claims in the past, I went ahead and bought it. Unfortunately, until now, 
they haven't substansiated that claim yet. And, I'm not really willing to 
cough up another 150-200 EUR for another minipci card, which - in some cases 
- - even has to be of a specific type to work with the bios of the system!

So, driverloader or ndiswrapper provides me with a workable solution, even 
though it's not really the way I like it. But it works. That's what counts 
for the majority of the 'desktop/laptop' linux users. They don't care how it 
happens, as long as it happens.

Personally I'm only half in that camp, since I like to use opensource & free 
drivers/software if available, and will advocate the use of such software. If 
no decent os substitutes are available, I'll use proprietary/binary only 
stuff nevertheless.

Jan
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-11-21  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-20 23:53 Announce: ndiswrapper Mudama, Eric
2003-11-21  0:00 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21  1:01   ` Bob McElrath
2003-11-24 17:42     ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-21  7:58   ` Jan De Luyck [this message]
2003-11-21  8:59   ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found] <TNwv.6Lz.7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <TPHV.1vf.1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <TQXu.420.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-11-21  2:53     ` Andrew Miklas
2003-11-21 10:33       ` Maciej Zenczykowski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-11-20  3:11 Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20  3:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20  3:34   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 12:05     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-11-21 17:25       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 17:30         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-21 17:43           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-11-21 17:48           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 17:50         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-11-20  4:00   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20  4:16     ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20  4:35       ` Neil Brown
2003-11-20  4:49         ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20  4:57           ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-11-20  5:05             ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20  6:50               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-11-20  5:27           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20  5:36             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20  5:36             ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20  4:38       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20  4:59         ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20  5:12           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20  5:27             ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-24 15:40               ` Rik van Riel
2003-11-20 12:41           ` Diego Calleja García
2003-11-20 13:04             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-11-20 20:24             ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2003-11-20  5:11         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-11-20  9:56         ` Ingo Oeser
2003-11-20 13:15           ` Ralph Metzler
2003-11-20  6:52       ` Matt Mackall
2003-11-20  7:40         ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 10:13         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-11-20 10:17           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 22:47             ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 22:59               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 23:26                 ` Oliver Hunt
2003-11-20 23:32                 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 13:19         ` Gene Heskett
2003-11-20 23:15         ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20  5:25     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20  5:26       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20  6:54         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-11-20 17:27           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 23:57             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-11-21  0:03               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 16:47       ` Jason Lunz
2003-11-20 17:36         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20 17:24     ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 17:48       ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-11-20 18:03       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 23:01       ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-21  5:48         ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-21  7:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-21  7:37             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-21  7:47             ` Nuno Silva
2003-11-21  7:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-20 10:55 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-20 17:22   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 23:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 23:45   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 17:08     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-23 23:13 ` Jan Rychter
2003-11-18 11:02 Pontus Fuchs
2003-11-18 12:51 ` Christian Axelsson
2003-11-18 13:26   ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-11-18 13:37     ` Christian Axelsson
2003-11-18 13:49     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-11-18 14:02       ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-11-18 13:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-18 14:14   ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-11-18 14:49     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-18 15:31       ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-11-18 14:19   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-11-18 14:31   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-18 22:22 ` Pavel Machek

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