From: Jan De Luyck <lkml@kcore.org>
To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Jean Tourrilhes <jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com>,
"Mudama, Eric" <eric_mudama@maxtor.com>
Cc: Linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Announce: ndiswrapper
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:58:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311210858.29082.lkml@kcore.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031121000031.GA17869@bougret.hpl.hp.com>
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On Friday 21 November 2003 01:00, Jean Tourrilhes wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 04:53:12PM -0700, Mudama, Eric wrote:
> > I think the point being made is "Why spend an extra $150 on a PCMCIA wifi
> > card when there's an integrated wifi device already in the laptop that
> > ndiswrapper will allow to sortof work?"
> >
> > The person who bought this laptop and wants to run linux on it might not
> > have the extra money handy to use buying additional hardware.
> >
> > Not my point of view, but definitely "a" point of view.
> >
> > --eric
>
> My point is : why buy this laptop if it's not 100%
> supported ? They are plenty of other laptops...
> I can guarantee you that I'm more picky and more cheap than
> anyone when choosing laptops, and I always get something 100%
> supported.
I, too, am the owner of a 'centrino' laptop, which comes with the intel Pro/
wireless 2100 card. At the time I bought it, Intel said that they would be
providing linux support for centrino, and since they made good on their
claims in the past, I went ahead and bought it. Unfortunately, until now,
they haven't substansiated that claim yet. And, I'm not really willing to
cough up another 150-200 EUR for another minipci card, which - in some cases
- - even has to be of a specific type to work with the bios of the system!
So, driverloader or ndiswrapper provides me with a workable solution, even
though it's not really the way I like it. But it works. That's what counts
for the majority of the 'desktop/laptop' linux users. They don't care how it
happens, as long as it happens.
Personally I'm only half in that camp, since I like to use opensource & free
drivers/software if available, and will advocate the use of such software. If
no decent os substitutes are available, I'll use proprietary/binary only
stuff nevertheless.
Jan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-11-21 8:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-20 23:53 Announce: ndiswrapper Mudama, Eric
2003-11-21 0:00 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 1:01 ` Bob McElrath
2003-11-24 17:42 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-21 7:58 ` Jan De Luyck [this message]
2003-11-21 8:59 ` Jamie Lokier
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2003-11-21 2:53 ` Andrew Miklas
2003-11-21 10:33 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
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2003-11-20 3:11 Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 3:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20 3:34 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 12:05 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-11-21 17:25 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 17:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-21 17:43 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-11-21 17:48 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 17:50 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-11-20 4:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 4:16 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 4:35 ` Neil Brown
2003-11-20 4:49 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 4:57 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-11-20 5:05 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 6:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-11-20 5:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 5:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20 5:36 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 4:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 4:59 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 5:12 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 5:27 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-24 15:40 ` Rik van Riel
2003-11-20 12:41 ` Diego Calleja García
2003-11-20 13:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-11-20 20:24 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2003-11-20 5:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-11-20 9:56 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-11-20 13:15 ` Ralph Metzler
2003-11-20 6:52 ` Matt Mackall
2003-11-20 7:40 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 10:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-11-20 10:17 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 22:47 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 22:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 23:26 ` Oliver Hunt
2003-11-20 23:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 13:19 ` Gene Heskett
2003-11-20 23:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 5:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20 5:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 6:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-11-20 17:27 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 23:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-11-21 0:03 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 16:47 ` Jason Lunz
2003-11-20 17:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20 17:24 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 17:48 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-11-20 18:03 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 23:01 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-21 5:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-21 7:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-21 7:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-21 7:47 ` Nuno Silva
2003-11-21 7:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-20 10:55 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-20 17:22 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 23:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 23:45 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 17:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-23 23:13 ` Jan Rychter
2003-11-18 11:02 Pontus Fuchs
2003-11-18 12:51 ` Christian Axelsson
2003-11-18 13:26 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-11-18 13:37 ` Christian Axelsson
2003-11-18 13:49 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-11-18 14:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-11-18 13:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-18 14:14 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-11-18 14:49 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-18 15:31 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-11-18 14:19 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-11-18 14:31 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-18 22:22 ` Pavel Machek
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