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From: Nathan Scott <nathans@sgi.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@work.bitmover.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: XFS for 2.4
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:23:47 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031202002347.GD621@frodo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031201222025.GA6152@work.bitmover.com>

Hello Larry,

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 02:20:25PM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote:
> 
> I have no idea if XFS should or should not go in, I'm not commenting on that.
> 
> However, having a bunch of XFS users say "put it in" when the maintainer
> said no, DaveM said no, and no other file system people seem to be
> stepping up to the bat with a review and a nod seems wrong.  

I must have missed that mail from Dave - or perhaps its still
in flight to me.  If you're refering to his "super-maintainence
mode" comment, I don't believe there was any specific comments
relating to XFS there (and XFS on 2.4 is in maintenance mode,
has been for a long time).

I also have mail from Marcelo saying he would look at merging XFS
in 2.4.24-pre (back when we last sent it, in 2.4.23-pre) ... so,
obviously I'm a little confused by this turn of events.

> Have you spoken with the people who maintain the generic parts of the
> VFS layer that you want to change?  If those people were in the list of
> people saying "XFS should go in" then I think you'd get a lot farther.

That level of discussion with other kernel coders, and extensive
review _has_ happened, in many cases _years_ ago now - this stuff
has all been merged in 2.5 for ages.  I wouldn't expect discussion
from other filesystem people at this stage - it is all old news to
them.

> ... the people who maintain those interfaces which
> are generic should make that decision.  Don't you agree?

Of course, and they have agreed that these are the way the changes
should be made - if you look at 2.6 you will see these changes all
merged there, a long time ago.  As I said, there is nothing new or
surprising here, and the changes are small and such that the other
filesystems are unaffected.

cheers.

-- 
Nathan

  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-02  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-01  6:20 XFS for 2.4 Nathan Scott
2003-12-01  9:24 ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-01  9:44   ` Stefan Smietanowski
2003-12-01  9:45     ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-01 14:06 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-01 22:10   ` Nathan Scott
2003-12-01 22:20     ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-02  0:23       ` Nathan Scott [this message]
2003-12-02 11:22         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 18:05           ` Austin Gonyou
2003-12-02 19:55           ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-12-02 20:05             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 20:16             ` Lawrence Walton
2003-12-03 19:01           ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 20:45             ` Willy Tarreau
2003-12-03 21:17               ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 21:48                 ` Joel Becker
2003-12-03 22:17                   ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 22:08                 ` Ed Sweetman
2003-12-04  5:21                   ` Willy Tarreau
2003-12-04  0:34               ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-04  5:33                 ` Willy Tarreau
2003-12-04 10:13                   ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-02 11:18     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 11:48       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 15:34       ` Russell Cattelan
2003-12-02 15:50         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 16:10           ` Darrell Michaud
2003-12-02 16:21             ` Austin Gonyou
2003-12-02 16:28             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-02 16:57               ` venom
2003-12-02 17:41               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2003-12-02 18:01           ` Russell Cattelan
2003-12-02 16:13         ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-12-02  0:51   ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-12-02  1:26     ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2003-12-14  1:08   ` 2.4 vs 2.6 Jan Rychter
2003-12-14  1:01     ` Roberto Sanchez
2003-12-14 11:23       ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-14 18:09         ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2003-12-14  1:53     ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2003-12-14  2:01     ` coderman
2003-12-14 20:23       ` tabris
2003-12-14  7:05     ` Voicu Liviu
2003-12-14 16:01       ` Roberto Sanchez
2003-12-14 17:32         ` Voicu Liviu
2003-12-15  7:23           ` Harry McGregor
2003-12-15  7:51             ` Voicu Liviu
2003-12-14 11:24     ` Frederik Deweerdt
2003-12-01 21:00 ` XFS for 2.4 Dan Yocum
2003-12-01 21:50   ` Bryan Whitehead
2003-12-01 22:01     ` Jeffrey E. Hundstad
2003-12-01 22:13     ` Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
2003-12-02  2:54     ` Joshua Schmidlkofer
2003-12-02 11:02   ` Maciej Soltysiak
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-02 17:45 Murthy Kambhampaty
2003-12-02 17:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-03 20:10   ` bill davidsen
2003-12-02 18:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 19:10   ` Tomas Szepe
2003-12-03  0:13     ` Eric Sandall
2003-12-03 20:12       ` bill davidsen
2003-12-02 18:02 ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-02 18:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20031202181146.A27567@adic.com>
2003-12-02 18:19       ` Steve Lord
2003-12-02 18:20     ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-02 18:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-02 18:27         ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-12-02 19:12           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-02 20:10             ` Nathan Scott
2003-12-02 20:11         ` viro
2003-12-03 20:51       ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 20:44   ` bill davidsen
2003-12-03 21:06     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-12-03 22:07     ` grundig
2003-12-03 22:48       ` bill davidsen
2003-12-02 18:34 Murthy Kambhampaty
2003-12-04  1:27 Xose Vazquez Perez
2003-12-04  2:40 ` Bernd Eckenfels

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