From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264485AbTLIHNR (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:13:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264572AbTLIHNR (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:13:17 -0500 Received: from stroke.of.genius.brain.org ([206.80.113.1]:8852 "EHLO stroke.of.genius.brain.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264485AbTLIHNM (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:13:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:13:03 -0500 From: "Murray J. Root" To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: State of devfs in 2.6? Message-ID: <20031209071303.GB24876@Master.launchmodem.com> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200312081536.26022.andrew@walrond.org> <20031208154256.GV19856@holomorphy.com> <20031208233428.GA31370@kroah.com> <1070953338.7668.6.camel@simulacron> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1070953338.7668.6.camel@simulacron> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:02:19AM +0100, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: > On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 00:34, Greg KH wrote: > > You have 15 floppy devices connected to your box? All floppy devices > > should show up in /sys/block. > > No, 16 devices are normal, sysfs has only one: > aj@simulacron:~/torrent/j-tv/download$ ls /dev/floppy/ > 0 0u1120 0u1600 0u1722 0u1760 0u1920 0u720 0u820 > 0u1040 0u1440 0u1680 0u1743 0u1840 0u360 0u800 0u830 > aj@simulacron:~/torrent/j-tv/download$ find /sys/block/fd* -name dev > /sys/block/fd0/dev > > Are those floppy devices obsolete? fdformat was the only app to use > them anyway, I guess. (Not that I use my floppy, I simply noticed > the change.) > > > > I wouldn't call udev deprecated, unless a newer kernel has the > > > essential devices, too. > > > > You mean s/udev/devfs/ right? :) > > oops, sorry. > > > > and > > > re-introducing makedev for devices not represented > > > in sysfs doesn't sound very nice either. So 2.8.* might be a nice time > > > frame for dropping devfs, or at least give sysfs and udev a few months > > > to catch up on the issues mentioned. > > > > Regardless of the state of udev, devfs has insolvable problems and you > > should not use it. End of story. > > how many bug reports did you see in the last three months of people > having problems with devfs? I don't doubt the problems in theory, but > but I simply haven't seen them happening. Most users seem quite happy. > Actually, I think most users who have problems just disable devfs. Most of the people I know have done that. No point in making bug reports about something that is unmaintained and deprecated. -- Murray J. Root