From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264282AbTLKBDp (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:03:45 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264283AbTLKBDo (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:03:44 -0500 Received: from ipcop.bitmover.com ([192.132.92.15]:51140 "EHLO work.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264282AbTLKBDn (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:03:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:03:27 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Larry McVoy , Kendall Bennett , "'Andre Hedrick'" , "'Arjan van de Ven'" , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux GPL and binary module exception clause? Message-ID: <20031211010327.GA27196@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Linus Torvalds , Larry McVoy , Kendall Bennett , 'Andre Hedrick' , 'Arjan van de Ven' , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <00af01c3bf41$2db12770$d43147ab@amer.cisco.com> <3FD7081D.31093.61FCFA36@localhost> <20031210221800.GM6896@work.bitmover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 03:38:02PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Larry McVoy wrote: > > Not only that, I think the judge would have something to say about the > > fact that the modules interface is delibrately changed all the time > > with stated intent of breaking binary drivers. > > Where do you people _find_ these ideas? Oh, I don't know, years of reading this list maybe? Come on, Linus, do you really need me to go surfing around to find all the postings to the list where people were saying that's why change is good? I *know* you have said it. Don't play dumb, you have and you know it. Yeah, you have said that part of it is that you retain the right to fix things that need to be fixed and that part I agree with 100%. Broken interfaces suck and fixing them should be your right. Agreed. But is that all? I don't think so and I've been here for 10 years. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm