From: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PCI Express support for 2.4 kernel
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:38:25 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031217233825.GK10132@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3hdzzni79.fsf@averell.firstfloor.org>
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:22:02AM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com> writes:
> >
> > And X11 will want to access it via /proc interfaces. And someone will eventually
> > go and design a different way to access PCI-EX for their hardware 8)
>
> It would be nice if it did. Just currently it uses racy port accesses
> from user space :-(
Depends what patches you applied and how you built it 8) However XFree meets
hotplug is so unfunny its not good to consider before dinner, nor XFree meets
irqs or XFree meets SAK and high security models.
Linus had a nice comment that the basic DRI/fb modules should be dealing with
the PCI layer and perhaps exposing the DMA engine for newer cards (to trusted
parties). For older cards there are all sorts of reasons you don't want to do
this on the performance side but even then a driver which refused to free up
the PCI map space until X noticed the file handle was returning errors and
selected EOF would make a lot of the stuff sort out.
Maybe in part the GGI folks were right all those years ago. We had two extreme
views and the middle may be closer
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-17 23:38 UTC|newest]
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2003-12-15 17:22 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-12-15 18:16 ` Greg KH
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2003-12-15 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-16 10:20 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-16 16:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17 6:30 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 6:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17 6:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-17 7:24 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17 8:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-17 10:35 ` Martin Mares
2003-12-17 23:06 ` Alan Cox
2003-12-17 10:08 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-12-17 15:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17 16:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-12-17 17:44 ` Dan Hopper
2003-12-17 18:14 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 21:44 ` Martin Mares
2003-12-16 17:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-16 17:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-16 17:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-12-16 22:39 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 0:12 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-16 21:59 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-16 17:45 ` Greg KH
2003-12-16 22:14 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
2003-12-17 10:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-12-15 15:57 ` Vladimir Kondratiev
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2003-12-14 17:28 Vladimir Kondratiev
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2003-12-15 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-15 20:03 ` Jeff Garzik
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