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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Christian Meder <chris@onestepahead.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6 vs 2.4 regression when running gnomemeeting
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:19:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031220111917.GA18267@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1071897314.1363.43.camel@localhost>


* Christian Meder <chris@onestepahead.de> wrote:

> That would leave me with two possibilities: 2.6. is doing something
> different in the gnomemeeting case or gnomemeeting is doing something
> different in the 2.6 case. A cursory look at the gnomemeeting sources
> didn't give me the impression that it's doing anything which would be
> affected by 2.6 deployment but I'll ask on the gnomemeeting-devel list
> for advice.

yep, i've looked at the source too and it doesnt do anything that 
changed in 2.6 from an interactivity POV.

To analyze the precise workload that hurts gnomemeeting, could you try
the following workload:

	main()
	{
		for (;;) sched_yield();
	}

and run 1-2 copies of such a load-generator - does it degrade
gnome-meeting audio just as much as eg. a kernel compile does?

as a next step, does the following degrade gnomemeeting?:

	main()
	{
		for (;;) ;
	}

my guess would be that if the yield() one degrades interactivity too
then this is unlikely to be somehow related to the scheduler proper.

If it doesnt degrade but the simple non-yield loop above does, then it's
probably something scheduling related in the sound architecture. (eg. 
use of yield() by some codepath of the sound drivers - although they
dont seem to be doing anything like this.)

If neither of these workloads degrades gnomemeeting, but a kernel-make
does, then it's the interactivity estimator.

    Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-20 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-19 20:11 2.6 vs 2.4 regression when running gnomemeeting Christian Meder
2003-12-19 20:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-19 23:30   ` Christian Meder
2003-12-20  0:21     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20  0:37       ` Christian Meder
2003-12-20  0:48         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20  1:11           ` Christian Meder
2003-12-20  1:26             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20  1:52               ` Christian Meder
2003-12-20  2:38                 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20  2:55                   ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-20  3:32                     ` Christian Meder
2003-12-20  3:50                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20  4:16                         ` Christian Meder
2003-12-20  4:32                           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20  5:15                             ` Christian Meder
2003-12-20  8:31                               ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-20 11:19                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2003-12-20 16:17                                 ` Christian Meder
2003-12-20 16:49                                 ` Christian Meder
2003-12-20 17:42                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-21  1:40                                     ` Christian Meder
2003-12-21  8:57                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-22  1:19                                         ` Christian Meder
2003-12-22  1:47                                           ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-22  8:48                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-20 23:29                                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20 22:20                         ` Matthias Andree
2003-12-21 19:23                           ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-22 10:54                       ` Andrew McGregor
2003-12-22 11:15                         ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-22 12:51                         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-22 13:25                         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20 19:34 ` Marc Schiffbauer
2003-12-21  1:49   ` Christian Meder

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