From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@citd.de>
To: Stan Bubrouski <stan@ccs.neu.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [OT] use of patented algorithms in the kernel ok or not?
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:55:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031221195528.GA29261@citd.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1072034966.1286.119.camel@duergar>
On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 02:29:27PM -0500, Stan Bubrouski wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-12-21 at 05:53, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > Albert Cahalan wrote:
> > > What about the obvious Kconfig option?
> > >
> > > config PATENT_1234567890
> > > bool "Patent 1234567890"
> > > default n
> > > help
> > > Say Y here if you have the right to use
> > > patent 1234567890 (the foo patent). Some
> > > countries do not recognise this patent, an
> > > educational or research exemption may apply,
> > > you may be the patent holder, the patent
> > > may have expired, or you may have aquired
> > > rights via licensing. Seek legal help if you
> > > need advice concerning your rights. If unsure,
> > > say N.
> >
> > I expect this was said in jest, but it would be delightful to see this
> > done for real. To the best of my knowlege it's uncharted territory,
> > so perhaps what you suggest _would_ be upheld in a court of law as
> > permissible?
> <SNIP>
>
> No No No No No...do you really think including code for a patented
> algorithm(s) is a good idea? You are still distributing the code and
> allowing people to illegally use it in countries where they are not
> allowed to. In essence you are providing a catalyst for them to violate
> a patent and making yourself and other liable along the way. US law is
> sick and fucked up, and if someone sues you for patent infringement
> you're most likely fucked, because you can never have enough money to
> defend yourself...for the sake of us stuck in this so-called free
> country (though we can be arrested and jailed without trial?) please do
> not include patented algoriths in Linux...
The question is "What toes are OK to step onto".
e.g.
To the best of my knowledge it should be illegal to distribute 2.6
kernel in France because AFAIK it is illegal to use encryption there.
(If not France, there are other countries that fit)
(And you remember that this same problem was only resolved a few years
ago for the U.S.! Otherwise the crypto-stuff would have been in kernel
for years!)
So the only question is "Is it OK to step on the U.S. toe?".
I guess there are other countries on this small planet (>200 IIRC) where
the current linux kernel has it's "problems(tm)" here and there.
Bis denn
--
Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as
bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in women. No, the Real Programmer
wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor -- complicated,
cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-21 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-21 1:12 [OT] use of patented algorithms in the kernel ok or not? Albert Cahalan
2003-12-21 10:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-21 13:35 ` James Morris
2003-12-21 14:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-21 16:03 ` Xavier Bestel
2003-12-21 14:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-21 19:33 ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-21 23:25 ` Helge Hafting
2003-12-21 19:29 ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-21 19:55 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer [this message]
2003-12-21 20:11 ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-21 21:52 ` Francois Romieu
2003-12-21 21:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-22 9:50 ` John Bradford
2003-12-22 15:34 ` Adrian Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-22 1:43 James Lamanna
2003-12-22 11:32 ` Matti Aarnio
2003-12-18 23:11 Lennert Buytenhek
2003-12-19 6:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-19 7:38 ` Paul Jackson
2003-12-19 8:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-19 11:38 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-12-20 17:28 ` Stefan Traby
2003-12-21 10:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-21 16:57 ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-13 15:35 ` Chuck Campbell
2004-01-13 19:35 ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-13 21:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-22 0:37 ` jw schultz
2003-12-21 23:39 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2003-12-21 1:25 ` jw schultz
2003-12-21 19:40 ` Lennert Buytenhek
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