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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
Cc: "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:42:56 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200312231342.56724.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FE79C32.6050104@cyberone.com.au>

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:36, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Con Kolivas wrote:
> >On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:11, Nick Piggin wrote:
> >>I think this patch is much too ugly to get into such an elegant
> >> scheduler. No fault to you Con because its an ugly problem.
> >
> >You're too kind. No it's ugly because of my code but it works for now.
>
> Well its all the special cases for batch scheduling that I don't like,
> the idea to not run batch tasks on a package running non batch processes
> is sound. I thought the batch scheduling code is Ingo's, but I could
> be mistaken. Anyway...

I realise the special cases suck. Code for one setting in a spot where it 
affects everyone is bad. Regarding the batch scheduling; no that's my special 
flavour coded ugly from the ground up. Ingo's is much smarter than this but 
once again I needed something that works now without too much effort.

>
> >>How about this: if a task is "delta" priority points below a task running
> >>on another sibling, move it to that sibling (so priorities via timeslice
> >>start working). I call it active unbalancing! I might be able to make it
> >>fit if there is interest. Other suggestions?
> >
> >I discussed this with Ingo and that's the sort of thing we thought of.
> > Perhaps a relative crossover of 10 dynamic priorities and an absolute
> > crossover of 5 static priorities before things got queued together. This
> > is really only required for the UP HT case.
>
> Well I guess it would still be nice for "SMP HT" as well. Hopefully the
> code can be generic enough that it would just carry over nicely. 

I disagree. I can't think of a real world scenario where 2+ physical cpus 
would benefit from this.

> It does 
> have complications though because the load balancer would have to be taught
> about it, and those architectures that do hardware priorities probably
> don't even want it.

Probably the simple relative/absolute will have to suffice. However it still 
doesn't help the fact that running something cpu bound concurrently at nice 0 
with something interactive nice 0 is actually slower if you use a UP HT 
processor in SMP mode instead of UP.

Con


  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-23  2:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-23  0:38 [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  1:11 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  1:24   ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  1:36     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  2:42       ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2003-12-23  2:57         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  3:15           ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  3:16             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:03               ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-23 15:51           ` bill davidsen
2003-12-23 22:09             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30  0:35               ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:10     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-26 22:56 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-26 23:42   ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:49     ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-27 11:09     ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27 11:15       ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30  0:29         ` bill davidsen
2003-12-29  7:02       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-29 12:49         ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27  8:52   ` Mika Penttilä
2003-12-30  0:32     ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:05   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-02 20:56     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-02 21:10       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-02 23:34         ` Davide Libenzi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-23  1:59 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23  2:40 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  5:33 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23 10:13 ` Nick Piggin

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