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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
Cc: "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:15:38 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200312231415.38611.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FE7AF24.40600@cyberone.com.au>

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:57, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Con Kolivas wrote:
> >On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:36, Nick Piggin wrote:
> >>Con Kolivas wrote:
> >>>I discussed this with Ingo and that's the sort of thing we thought of.
> >>>Perhaps a relative crossover of 10 dynamic priorities and an absolute
> >>>crossover of 5 static priorities before things got queued together. This
> >>>is really only required for the UP HT case.
> >>
> >>Well I guess it would still be nice for "SMP HT" as well. Hopefully the
> >>code can be generic enough that it would just carry over nicely.
> >
> >I disagree. I can't think of a real world scenario where 2+ physical cpus
> >would benefit from this.
>
> Well its the same problem. A nice -20 process can still lose 40-55% of its
> performance to a nice 19 process, a figure of 10% is probably too high and
> we'd really want it <= 5% like what happens with a single logical
> processor.

I changed my mind just after I sent that mail. 4 physical cores running three 
nice 20 and one nice -20 task gives the nice -20 task only 25% of the total 
cpu and 25% to each of the nice 20 tasks.

> >>It does
> >>have complications though because the load balancer would have to be
> >> taught about it, and those architectures that do hardware priorities
> >> probably don't even want it.
> >
> >Probably the simple relative/absolute will have to suffice. However it
> > still doesn't help the fact that running something cpu bound concurrently
> > at nice 0 with something interactive nice 0 is actually slower if you use
> > a UP HT processor in SMP mode instead of UP.
>
> It will be based on dynamic priorities, possibly with some feedback from
> nice as well, but it probably still won't be perfect and it will probably
> be very complex *cough* hardware priorities *cough* ;)
>
> I might try to fit it into a more general priority balancing system because
> we currently have similar sorts of failings on regular SMP as well.

I'll keep my eyes peeled. Meanwhile I'll use my ugly patch ;-)

Con


  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-23  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-23  0:38 [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  1:11 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  1:24   ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  1:36     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  2:42       ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  2:57         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  3:15           ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2003-12-23  3:16             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:03               ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-23 15:51           ` bill davidsen
2003-12-23 22:09             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30  0:35               ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:10     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-26 22:56 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-26 23:42   ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:49     ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-27 11:09     ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27 11:15       ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30  0:29         ` bill davidsen
2003-12-29  7:02       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-29 12:49         ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27  8:52   ` Mika Penttilä
2003-12-30  0:32     ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:05   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-02 20:56     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-02 21:10       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-02 23:34         ` Davide Libenzi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-23  1:59 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23  2:40 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  5:33 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23 10:13 ` Nick Piggin

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