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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Hua Zhong <hzhong@cisco.com>
Cc: "'Rob Love'" <rml@ximian.com>,
	"'Jari Soderholm'" <Jari.Soderholm@edu.stadia.fi>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: DEVFS is very good compared to UDEV
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:14:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031223231457.GD16315@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <008901c3c9a8$97ac5c50$ca41cb3f@amer.cisco.com>

On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 03:00:43PM -0800, Hua Zhong wrote:
> > So I cannot comment over _why_ defvs is unmaintained, but that is not
> > the point: either way, it stands that devfs is unmaintained.  
> > That is a problem in and of itself.
> 
> It's just my impression that around that time core developers had
> decided to replace devfs with a new model. If I were in ths same shoes,
> I would probably also stop maintaining it. Then 2 years later when
> somebody asks, the reason to replace my code shouldn't be
> "unmaintained". Just the technical reasons should be enough. :-)

Back in June of 2001, Pat Mochel and I talked with Richard about this
whole driver model, sysfs, and udev design at the 2001 kernel summit,
after presenting it to all of the other kernel developers.  He had some
objections, but was very aware of what we wanted to do.

It's not like udev and this whole sysfs / driver model implementation
snuck into the kernel late at night when no one else was looking, and
pounced on all of the poor, unsuspecting devfs users, eating them for a
early morning snack.


greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-23 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-23 21:20 DEVFS is very good compared to UDEV Jari Soderholm
2003-12-23 21:50 ` Stan Bubrouski
2003-12-23 22:01 ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 22:21   ` Hua Zhong
2003-12-23 22:30     ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 23:00       ` Hua Zhong
2003-12-23 23:03         ` Rob Love
2003-12-23 23:14         ` Greg KH [this message]
2003-12-23 23:26         ` viro
2003-12-24  0:00           ` Mike Fedyk
2003-12-23 23:03     ` grundig
2003-12-23 23:05     ` viro
2003-12-24  2:24     ` Paul Jackson
2003-12-23 22:24 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-12-27 11:57 ` Ian Kent
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-24  3:33 Albert Cahalan
2003-12-24 18:40 ` Theodore Ts'o

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