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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:42:55 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200312271042.55989.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031226225652.GE197@elf.ucw.cz>

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:56, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > I've done a resync and update of my batch scheduling that is also
> > hyper-thread aware.
> >
> > What is batch scheduling? Specifying a task as batch allows it to only
> > use cpu time if there is idle time available, rather than having a
> > proportion of the cpu time based on niceness.
> >
> > Why do I need hyper-thread aware batch scheduling?
> >
> > If you have a hyperthread (P4HT) processor and run it as two logical cpus
> > you can have a very low priority task running that can consume 50% of
> > your physical cpu's capacity no matter how high priority tasks you are
> > running. For example if you use the distributed computing client
> > setiathome you will be effectively be running at half your cpu's speed
> > even if you run setiathome at nice 20. Batch scheduling for normal cpus
> > allows only idle time to be used for batch tasks, and for HT cpus only
> > allows idle time when both logical cpus are idle.
>
> BTW this is going to be an issue even on normal (non-HT)
> systems. Imagine memory-bound scientific task on CPU0 and nice -20
> memory-bound seti&home at CPU1. Even without hyperthreading, your
> scientific task is going to run at 50% of speed and seti&home is going
> to get second half. Oops.
>
> Something similar can happen with disk, but we are moving out of
> cpu-scheduler arena with that.
>
> [I do not have SMP nearby to demonstrate it, anybody wanting to
> benchmark a bit?]

This is definitely the case but there is one huge difference. If you have 
2x1Ghz non HT processors then the fastest a single threaded task can run is 
at 1Ghz. If you have 1x2Ghz HT processor the fastest a single threaded task 
can run is 2Ghz. 

Con


  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-26 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-23  0:38 [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  1:11 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  1:24   ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  1:36     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  2:42       ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  2:57         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  3:15           ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23  3:16             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:03               ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-23 15:51           ` bill davidsen
2003-12-23 22:09             ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30  0:35               ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:10     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-26 22:56 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-26 23:42   ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2003-12-26 23:49     ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-27 11:09     ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27 11:15       ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30  0:29         ` bill davidsen
2003-12-29  7:02       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-29 12:49         ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27  8:52   ` Mika Penttilä
2003-12-30  0:32     ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:05   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-02 20:56     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-02 21:10       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-02 23:34         ` Davide Libenzi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-23  1:59 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23  2:40 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23  5:33 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23 10:13 ` Nick Piggin

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